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The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.world to Facepalm@lemmy.world · 11 months ago

Driver's car thinks he's sleeping

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Driver's car thinks he's sleeping

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The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.world to Facepalm@lemmy.world · 11 months ago
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    This is what happens when a company has no diversity. Most companies dogfood their own production. Reminds me of Google’s gorilla situation…

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      This happens even on newer Toyotas, so it’s not exactly company-specific. The issue is the biased training data used for the face recognition system.

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        This seems more like an excuse. All these companies aren’t using the same training data.

        They literally never tested this on an asian person before selling in the vehicle…

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          Toyota is a japanese manufacturer. Likely they localize the feature and the localized version has the problem. Its completely possible they all contract the same software vendors in the US for certification reasons, resulting in similar problems.

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            This makes more sense

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      Google’s gorilla situation?

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        Said gorilla situation

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    Classic case of OWPITTS (only white people in the training set).

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      I am guessing the car wasn’t made by Subaru or Nissan and is from Ford, GMC, Tesla, BMW, or Mercedes.

      • body_by_make@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        My Subaru has a driver attention feature that’s constantly going off if I sit up straight because I’m too tall 🫠

        • pyre@lemmy.world
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          “please sit back down!”

          • Dragster39@feddit.de
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            Please don’t drive while standing?

        • K4mpfie@feddit.de
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          Classic case of OSPITTS (only small people in the training set).

      • Avg@lemm.ee
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        It happened to samsung’s phones years ago.

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          Classic case of OPWFREITTS (Only people with fire resistant ears in the training set)

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          It wouldn’t surprise me if their Asian training models were more accurate with Koreans than other Asians. It could be made super accurate to Korean models due to sample size and cause the differences between Korean and Chinese models to trigger a false positive.

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    There’s an episode of American Auto where they make a self-driving car that can’t see black people. It’s a good show. Check it out.

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      Sounds like a similar episode of Better Off Ted. Also a great show that only got 2 seasons.

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        It’s all fun and games until the octochicken comes down from its web.

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        God I loved that show, especially that episode. If they’d made it a few years later, it most certainly would’ve been picked up by one of the streaming services for more seasons.

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        One of my faves. I still think of the line from that episode “but we don’t have the parking for that” whenever I walk past a car desert

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      I’m not really in the mood for a documentary

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    What does the system do when you wear sunglasses?

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      Automatically voids the warranty

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        Shh…you’re giving them ideas.

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      Maybe we could add mandatory accessoires.

      You have to wear blood pressure, respiratory and heart rate sensors while driving.

      Additionaly these could be made available to insurance companies for a small reduction in fees from 115% to 105%, so it feels cheaper while they tell you it’s for your own benefit.

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    My car keeps screaming at me to keep my hands on the wheel, WHILE I’M FUCKING HOLDING IT.

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      You black with a black steering wheel or white with a white one?

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      My car’s lane assist deactivates if the road is too straight because I haven’t moved the steering wheel in too long. The only way to get it back is to swerve a bit.

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        My FIL shared that the lane assist tried to swerve into oncoming traffic shortly after they bought their new car with all the assist bells and whistles. On the other hand my MIL shouldn’t be driving and genuinely had the drowsy assist force her to be a bit safer. I’m seriously waiting for the day she finally loses her license either for drunk driving or just speeding/tailgating/illegally passing etc. excessively

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      Your car (Tesla?) has no sensors on the wheel that can detect your hands. That’s why you need to jerk the wheel every couple of seconds.

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        God no. It’s a Peugeot, and light hands on black wheel. But the other comment says it has no sensors, except the ones that detect movement of the wheel. so apparently i just have to jerk the wheel randomly, like a BMW driver and it will stop yelling at me.

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          Exactly, other cars do have ‘hand-detection-sensors’ so you on my have to touch the wheel. I would assume current BMWs should have it.

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        • hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de
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          Please re-read and understand what I wrote.

          • Psythik@lemmy.world
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            Impossible; I have ADHD

        • Victor@lemmy.world
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          Because they are the fools?

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        So, what you are saying is, i"m driving too good, so the car thinks I’m not there? And we want to let those dumb things drive themselves?

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    Lol just like the old Xbox Kinect failing miserably at seeing dark skinned black people correctly or at all

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      There was also a automatic soap dispenser that couldn’t see dark skin.

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    There’s a Better Off Ted episode that hilariously addressed this issue.

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      That show should have more seasons.

  • shalafi@lemmy.worldBanned
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    Removed by mod

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      Car manufacturer tried to make a safer and more attentive driver through monitor and warning systems, accidentally causes crippling anxiety instead.

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    My Ford transit kept telling me to pull over to rest. It was a windy day.

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      I have small eyes myself, and I’m not Asian. So it’d yell at me without the wind, lol. Also, I wonder how it’d work for those wearing sunglasses…

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        Maybe it recognizes sunglasses and skips this check while you wear them.

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          Warning, no eyes detected

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            Warning, driver is creepy

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    You’d think they’d have learned from all the cameras that can’t see black people…

    This is racist as shit.

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    I’m sure it is possible to disable this feature?

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      company vehicle. might not be allowed to for insurance reasons. 🤷‍♂️

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        The fun part is, company will get a higher premium after they go through data from that car and it’s “sleepy” driver.

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          That sounds like bullshit

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            Yes, telemetry-linked insurance is bullshit.

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            I agree, but it’s happening.

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        Sue the company for racism and creating a hostile work environment.

        I’m not sure how serious I am.

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    Can people see why “DEI” programs are genuinely good things yet?

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      Just in case anyone doesn’t know the acronym: DEI is Diversity, equity, and inclusion.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity,_equity,_and_inclusion

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      I can see small teams not having the personal to account for every possiblity, but this should have gotten picked up in testing and not made it to production. There was an automatic soap dispenser that couldn’t see dark skin, but that didn’t make it to full scale production.

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      I mean I just liked them because you actually learn more about other perspectives…plus other cultures are pretty dope too…the white power idiots need to go out and realize white town is creepy and unpleasant.

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        white town is creepy and unpleasant

        And simultaneously incredibly boring! There’s only so much alcohol and casseroles I can be entertained by…

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    I remember this episode from Better Off Ted.

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    i’ld try to stick some googly eyes on a headband to wear when driving. if it does not help, its at least good for a selfie.

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    https://youtu.be/XyXNmiTIupg?si=AspndQnE_HjOgxUW

    • toiletobserver@lemmy.world
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      My white guy sucks

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      I love this show, and this episode.

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        The irony of a strike killing it is honestly pretty amusing in hindsight, but that doesn’t give us the six seasons and a movie it deserved.

    • brbposting@sh.itjust.works
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      Removing Google tracker for ya (Piped)

      ”I am not a bot, and this action was performed manually”

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        Yeah I’m always a little lazy about that because I’m on Android anyways

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