• @HKPiax@lemmy.world
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    7426 days ago

    I’m from the other side of the pond, what does this mean? I’m having a blast with all the Trump memes but this one’s too specific for me :(

    • @TransplantedSconie@lemm.eeOP
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      12626 days ago

      Before sentencing a judge is given a report on the felon’s behavior, likelihood to recommit crimes, and general overview of a subjects temperament.

      Trumps is going to be amazing.

      • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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        26 days ago

        It’s important to note that the trial was just about what he did in reference to these specific crimes.

        This involves everything before during and after the trial.

      • @barsquid@lemmy.world
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        526 days ago

        Can they include the civil court’s finding that he is a rapist or does that not meet the required evidentiary standard?

        • @TransplantedSconie@lemm.eeOP
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          1126 days ago
          1. They get interviewed by a court official

          2. They have to pee in a cup for a drug test in front of said officer

          3. The room is mirrored, so no shenanigans can go on during the pee in the cup phase

          4. They are asked a bazillion questions that have to be answered, or you go directly to jail.

          Fuck off for even implying that this process won’t be honest

          • Fuck off for implying that the judicial branch can’t be corrupted. We wouldn’t even be having this conversation if trump weren’t continuously supported by people who lie or slow-roll for him. IDGAF if he has to pee in a cup, it’s the rest of the report that counts, especially the part where his likelihood of being a repeat offender is discussed and whether or not there are any consequences for the very fact that hell yeah, he’s a habitual offender.

          • @Xtallll
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            325 days ago

            The court official is probably one of the people protected by the gag order put in place because trump was calling for violence against the courthouse staff.

    • @macarthur_park@lemmy.world
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      3726 days ago

      A probation officer working for the court will prepare a report on the defendant’s background, including any mitigating circumstances, criminal history, behavior, etc that would impact the sentencing. Trump’s gag order violations are likely going to be used to justify stricter sentencing.

    • filtoid
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      2026 days ago

      Fellow right-side-of-the-ponder here (so take with a heap of salt). So basically both sides present mitigations (“my client had a clean record until now”, “the defendant was found liable for SA”, sort of thing). These may change the outcome of the sentencing, including specific dates for any period of incarceration.

      There will also be part of this given over to why they defendant shouldn’t be found liable for also violating his gag order (very similar to the ones before, but this one is now he is a felon). And if the defense counsel can’t explain why he did that (which is pretty much indefensible) then he can be both found liable for the breach and have it impact his potential sentence.

      I am not a lawyer, I am not American, this is just what I understand, until someone better comes along to correct me.

      • @RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world
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        Very good.

        On one hand the report could say the convict has always been a good person until now.

        Or………

        I could say the convict has spent the last 6 months threatening the judge’s daughter wracking up 9 contempts of court. The contempt cannot affect the sentence, but it will surely speak to character for a parole of that unaffected sentence.

    • @Snowclone@lemmy.world
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      It means that all the information avaliable about his actions will be collected the judge will consider that information seriously as a part of the punishment.

  • @PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee
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    3526 days ago

    That’s nothing, I’m waiting for when Trump gets the chance to say something on the record at sentencing

    I guarantee that up to this point his lawyers have been keeping a cork in his yap hole but if he’s actually required to give a statement we could see some real shit.

    • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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      2426 days ago

      Only when Trump is the defendant would anyone consider penalizing over a dozen violations that are each individually bad enough to get normal people jailed for contempt of court “rash”.

      Enough with the absurd levels of overcautiousness at the expense of seeking anything that even remotely resembles justice already!

      • Every single thing you say is true.

        However, he appointed SCOTUS justices who are looking for any excuse to overturn the ruling.

        The stakes are too high to ignore the real politik.

        • drphungky
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          1026 days ago

          He didn’t appoint anyone to the NY state supreme court.

  • @Furbag@lemmy.world
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    Yeah, not to mention the Judge can take into consideration whether or not the criminal expressed remorse for their actions. Trump left the courtroom after being handed 34 guilty verdicts, called the trial a sham, and said the result didn’t matter because the “real” result was going to be Nov. 5th.

    The Judge already determined that fines do not work on Trump and that he is flippant about his prospects of seeing actual punishment in regards to this case. He deserves the maximum prison sentence.

    • @rocky1138@sh.itjust.works
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      124 days ago

      I think it’s a reference to a really old commercial for cereal. A brand selling bran flakes made a big deal that each box had two scoops of raisins in it. “Two scoops of raisins in Kellogg’s Raisin Bran”

      • @kaffiene@lemmy.world
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        124 days ago

        That’s kinda odd unless there’s some kind of metric scoop measure - it’s meaningless. Gotta love marketing people