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          Debates are only cool when they aren’t meant to divide and create conflict-

          Do you know what debates are? What they are for? How they operate? A debate is always two opposing ideas, they are literally designed to divide and revolve around conflict. If you only like debates that unite and cause harmony then you don’t actually like debates, you like discussions.

          I clearly said I didn’t see this specific topic appropriate because of the sexist (and sometimes political) nature of it.

          A) Yes it’s a debate about sexism and rape culture, of course it’s going to involve sexism.

          B) Everything is politics. People who complain about things “getting too political” just don’t like the politics on display.

          We are literally in a meme community revolving around an allegory for the Vietnam war where the good guys are analogous to the Vietcong. If you think Star Wars is not a place for politics then you don’t understand Star Wars.

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              It still shows up for me, I’ll post it below for reference.

              The meme is about a controversial topic which has lead to numerous debates lately where “both sides” are extremely sexist to the other. I made an statement, it wasn’t subject of debate (unlike the meme).

              there is no rule that the memes can’t be attached to debates

              Never said that, I actually enjoy a lot of debates born from memes, so that’s not the problem. I clearly said I didn’t see this specific topic appropriate because of the sexist (and sometimes political) nature of it. Debates are only cool when they aren’t meant to divide and create conflict-

              Were you guys outspoken then?

              -which you seem to try to encourage. Nice try, but I’m not changing my mind here, this post doesn’t seem appropriate to me in the slightest. People here expect “haHa [insert funny akward quote]”, not “let’s compare ewoks to fucking rapists”.

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                  It’s the Principal Skinner meme response.

                  “Could I be wrong about the way men behave in society that makes women feel so uncomfortable? No, it’s the women who are wrong.”

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        Someone posed a very ill-formed question that results in no winners. “Would you rather find yourself in the woods with a bear or a man?”

        The argument is almost designed to make men feel discriminated against and women feel like men don’t listen to them. There’s just enough room for everyone to bring in their own assumptions about the situation to justify their position, so everyone else feels defensive.

        The only winner is the bear.

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        I want a shitty fan trailer where it starts with someone saying “Somehow Plagueis returned…” where all we ever see is the tall hooded silhouette that never speaks

        Then at the end, the hood pulls back, head still in silhouette, but a very… Distinct head appears, and in a slightly deeper than normal voice, we hear “Meesa back…” as glowing yellow eyes open up.

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    This is the exact scenario.

    Had Leia happened upon some random person out in the forest, she likely would have hidden and observed to figure out their intentions/allegiance before engaging. As would I, a guy.

    And when the ewoks happened upon some random guys in the forest they got super agro defensive until C3PO said “not all men”.

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    Me and my buds got all offended by this but then I remembered us dudes shared Bill Burr’s “Toughest job in the world” joke over and over and this is just them being dramatic over that