• archomrade [he/him]@midwest.social
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    5 months ago

    Personally, i’m worried that the biden administration is underestimating the electoral importance of his decision to continue supporting Israel’s genocide against Palestinians.

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      5 months ago

      Personally, i’m worried that the biden administration is underestimating the electoral importance of his decision to continue supporting Israel’s genocide against Palestinians.

      he’s aware of the optics of his positions and voting history; that’s why he reversed course on gay marriage; gays in the military and federal service long after it was popular and gave the barest of minimums for weed and student loans that didn’t have much of an impact on the status quo.

      palestine is the one thing he won’t budge on; but he’ll (somewhat) do all of the other things that’ll get him votes like he’s always done and give the people not paying enough attention warm fuzzy feels for supporting him.

      i think the worst take away from this election cycle is learning that most american’s don’t give a rat’s ass about genocide; so long as their guy wins and get to express regret over it. (i also wonder if that’s how every other genocide is/was allowed to happen).

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        Yup. (I was just mirroring Bernie’s verbiage and flipping the active subject)

        Biden is the quintessential capital-L Liberal: he is performatively responsive to progressive issues, but only insofar as it does not alter the fundamental power structures of the western capitalistic and chauvinistic principles.

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        Because the US still greatly supports Israel over the alternatives. Terminally online people don’t understand at all what is going on because of their self-imposed echo chambers. A quick look at pew polls show that the US populace still largely supports Israel much more than even the Palestine people.

        It is funny how quick far-leftists will abandon trans/gay people though. Just a little bit ago they were saying that righties were trying to genocide lgbt peoples and suddenly they don’t care. "I dislike how Biden is handling this which is why ill let an open facist win and finally put the nail in the coffin of my lgbt friends. YAY PALESTINE IS SAVED NOW THAT TRUMP IS GIVING ISRAEL THE ALL GREEN TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. GOOD JOB PATRICK WE SAVED PALESTINE!

        Edit: Also funny how they also support the group actually genociding lgbt peoples. It often feels that lgbt peoples to leftist are just a tool.

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      If you are worried about the Palestinians, do you expect Trump to be more lenient in that regard? I think it would be even worse with Trump. He’d not be mildly criticizing Netanyahu, but would rather asking Netanyahu why he isn’t going further

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          But as someone who doesn’t have to live in the hellhole called the US, sees that they are represented by their own politicians accurately. The US let it come this far because the US decided to perpetuate a system that just makes everything worse due to lesser evil politics. So by USean logic, voting Biden prevents worse things from happening to Palestinians compared to Trump. But I personally would vote for someone who accurately represents my stances instead of buying into the lesser evilism in a messed up system.