That’s actually a pretty good comeback tho…lol
The sort of comeback so good you think of it later on and write a comic, wishing you’d said it at the time
L’esprit de l’escalier
Treppenwitz
Tru
But at the end of the day, it’s not true and they’re still obese
Buddy… at the end of the day it’s a fucking cartoon calm down
Similar or same delusional nonsense happens every day. It’s real. That’s the point, but instead of empowering it’s actually sad.
Nah dawg you’re the only sad one here, on a post about a joke, acting like some kind of fucking weirdo.
Yeah gimpchrist, you tell them.
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This isn’t cringe at all… 🙄
It would maybe pass as not cringe if not for the last panel
It’s to show playfulness and that the artist doesn’t feel THAT strongly, imagine how cold the comic would be without it.
And then consider that women have been raised to be polite and apologetic to the point it is even a habit for most of us. I guess that’s why I can’t really see it as cringe even if I try.
i dunno, i quite like the last panel
Something about this feels like it’s ten years old. It was a different time.
Man, I thought Lemmy was supposed to be better than Reddit. These comments are proving me wrong.
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I’m one of them. Still, was hoping the hate would be left behind.
A platform is nothing but a reflection of its users and of humanity :) An empty canvas we can fill.
Most of the negative comments are from Lemmy.world users, which is the instance that recieves the bulk of the Reddit crowd before the users find a more fitting instance.
Lemmy.world tends to attract people from Reddit that are too ideological to stay, but want the same thing as Reddit without the enshittification, so they go to the largest generalist instance first. Over time, some leave for more specialized instances, like Beehaw, Lemmy.ml, programming.dev, or blahaj.zone, so that leaves .world usually with newer accounts, or people who just want Reddit 2 before it went to shit.
Not saying everyone from .world is bad, of course not, but what drives users to .world over more niche instances is usually coming straight from Reddit.
I joined Lemmy.ml because it looked like the largest generalist instance plus apparently ran by Lemmy developers. Here you list it as a specialist one. Well, I couldn’t have known at the time. :D
It’s a bit of both! It’s an older instance, but it is focused on FOSS and Privacy. It isn’t extremely specialized, of course, but it is not a pure generalist instance either.
Wait I am in this comment I left reddit and joined world then wanted to switch to a different one so just joined .ee arbitrarily. Is there a short reference somewhere of how these are all different from each other?
Here is a good spot to pick an Instance. You can stay with .ee if you want, but I recommend picking a new instance that fits what you personally prefer! You can also check what instances are federated with which other instances. For example, .world isn’t federated with Lemmygrad or Hexbear, but .ml is federated with all 3, so you may wish to change your instance accordingly.
Where do I see who is federated with who? Couldn’t find it from that link. Would def prefer one that is federated with a broad scope of others
You can find it in the server list at the bottom of the website. Lemm.ee is pretty broad, as are most of the top instances.
Defederation isn’t a bad thing. .world isn’t federated with Hexbear and Lemmygrad because .world doesn’t like Marxist-Leninists, for example, so it can help keep an audience curated. Lemmy.ml liked Marxist-Leninists, so it is federated with them.
It’s not that .world doesn’t like Marxist-Leninists, it’s that Hexbear likes to doglike over everything and well you can tell a lot about Lemmygrad by its name.
That’s just incorrect. I’m a Marxist and to just fine here. Communist does not equal tankie, which Hexbear is full of.
What separates a “tankie” from a Marxist-Leninist? Is it just vibes? I got called a tankie for recommending a “leftist” to read Marx, specifically Critique of the Gotha Programme. Said leftist thought that the biggest factor of Capitalism is the employee-employer relationship, which is of course ridiculous, as that would mean feudalism is Capitalist, or even Market Socialism.
Since I get to see a lot of hexbear posts and comments as a lemmy.ml account, I can genuinely say that the biggest distinction between hexbear and lemmy.world, besides the fact that hexbear is explicitly leftist, is that hexbear users love to combat liberals and liberalism, often dogpiling on anti-communist takes, which .world sees as disruptive.
Someone once posted a graphic showing how each instance leaned politically and I thought it was pretty useful. Some more important distinctions between them are censorship, many will censor bad words or content they find objectionable and I just couldn’t tolerate how dumb that was so I picked a fairly anarchist anything goes instance.
Unfortunately you only get a good overview by being here a long time and paying a bit of attention to the seasonal drama. The biggest pointers, to my knowledge, would be that a lot of instances are defederated with lemmygrad and hexbear (but not all), because otherwise the bad faith campism and trolling gets unbearable, world is defederated with the piracy instance, and virtually every large server is defederated with “free speech absolutists” who let their instances fester with far right types.
Ngl I just liked the name And I’m only staying out of laziness
Yeah it’s a bummer. When I left twitter for mastodon there was a full 180° from the attitudes people had. Unfortunately it seems that the outrage/negativity algorithm has trained Redditors too well to break those bad habits.
It’s usually the ones coming straight from Reddit into Lemmy.world, if you go to a less generalist instance it’s usually a lot better.
.world is just Reddit 2, in terms of culture.
“Body type”? Is obesity a body type?
“body type” has always been a general term to express the entire shape, size and proportions of a person, including excess weight and obesity.
When I was obese I couldn’t pull off crop tops because of my body size, it was incredibly unflattering, and now that I’m a healthy weight I still can’t pull off crop tops because of my body proportions, I have a short torso.
Body type encompasses both scenarios, so it’s often thought of as a polite way to tell someone something is unflattering without singling out specific “flaws” in their body.
Until its only used for this because our society sucks and just becomes a euphemism, because we can’t have nice things.
That makes a bit more sense. I was initially reminded of the various pseudo-scientific attempts to classify variations in human body shapes, which usually don’t factor in great variations in body fat content. The way it’s used in the image made me think this was an attempt to frame an unhealthy lifestyle as something inherent that can’t be changed.
Even if I were to agree with this rather obvious trolling attempt.
…yes?
“Type” is a word used to categorize things by shared characteristics, in this context, characteristics shared by the human body?
No, like this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_type
Even if I were to agree with this rather obvious trolling attempt.
Peak reddit conversation.
ah yes the Ayurveda, an excellent scientific take on the medical condition of the body, my back aches because my Adam’s apple is haunted.
What are you trying to say?
you: “is this type of body a body type?”
me: “yes, a type is a type”
you: “no, I meant something really specific” (provides a list of lists)
me: (looking at the list of lists): “this is pure nonsense”
I’m aware that any of the past attempts to classify body types are extremely pseudo-scientific and I’ve explained as much in a different comment in this thread. The point is that “body type” isn’t just necessarily just a generic way to refer to someone’s body shape. Plenty of people still believe in that made up nonsense.
Respectfully — that’s not what you said, though, until now.
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She physically cannot pull it off due to size
The boyfriend works in healthcare and it’s just his job. Bless him.
I thought the snowflakes stayed on reddit, but apparently me saying “Copium in comic” is too offensive for moderators.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Dont fight girls, I’ll pull it off both of you
A man of culture
I’ve been in so many wholesome communities, I initially thought the first panel was a thinly veiled pickup line.
Same, thought it might go in a different direction
Something about that just feels… kinda great, definitely sounds like something one should strive for.
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and cute
Like yo momma.
Gottem
Let me guess, as an average lemmy user the chances are pretty high you are a white male in early adulthood, probably living off a very concerning diet but not gaining weight because of some genetical inability to build up fat.
Like, thats me, but I am aware of it. People can get fat if they eat as much as I do, which is not even much. Get a hold of your privileges dude.
People can get fat if they eat as much as I do
Then its up to those people to fucking get out of their asses and exercise. It’s one thing to be fat because of a health issue like hypothyroidism, and a whole different thing to choose being fat. In either case, you can’t really demand people to think an unhealthy, droopy and blobby body is beautiful, all you can ask is for people to not be rude about it.
Here’s a very apt comparison: I suffer from hyperhidrosis, a condition which makes me sweat 100% of the time regarless of temperature. Which do you think more reasonable: that I wear deodorant, refresh myself and shower often; or that I demand people to live with and enjoy my body odour?
It’s one thing to be fat because of a health
I’d argue it’s a mental health issue.
Edit: I did not clearly represent my point. I meant that even overweight people without physical health issues are likely dealing with some unresolved mental health issues as well. And I say that sympathetically.
Hypothyroidism happens when the thyroid gland doesn’t make enough thyroid hormone
yup, sounds very psychological to me
also like… a mental health issue is also a health issue?
That’s not what I meant. I understand what hypohyroidism is. I just meant overweight people without something physical like that are probably going through something mentally. Is that controversial?
it’s not, but that’s not the way you phrased it originally
Yeah, I see how that could have been unclear, sorry. I wasn’t intending to dispute the quoted portion, but to expand on it.
Diet is the major part of it, you don’t burn a ton or calories through exercise to be honest. You need to be working from a deficit to get anywhere
It’s objectively more effective to exercise more than to eat less. There are countless studies on the subject.
Mind sending one? Way I’ve understood it, a calorie deficit is the major thing you need to lose fat consistently. Obviously don’t overdo it, obviously exercise as well, and some things like protein are better than others. At the end of the day though, you work on a deficit and you’ll lose fat, have an excess and you won’t
I mean the person in the pic is not fat. That is the point.
???
They display all classic traits of obesity
I’m actually a 31 year old female living together with my bf and cat. I’m going to the gym about 2 to 3 times a week since a few months. My bmi at this moment is 24.1 which is still quite high but I’m getting there.
All I did was say fat. If that offended you, go to the gym.
BMI is kinda bogus, it doean’t take into account muscle vs fat. At peak working out with small waist, but visible muscle mass my chart BMI was Obese
I agree about BMI often being a bad measurement. Even my own doctors ignore it on me because my BMI is well into the obese range and yet every other measurement of health is in the healthy range, most well into it. My body fat for instance is just below 30%, which is perfectly healthy for a woman. My waist line is well into healthy range as well. Additionally, all my tests such as blood tests come back more than healthy and show that I’m not at risk for any obesity related conditions. Of course, I don’t look like the standard “healthy” body most people imagine a woman should have. I would look fat to anyone who doesn’t know the full picture.
That’s why I always hated that whole thing people say that “If you’re BMI is high and you’re still healthy it’ll be really obvious.” People just assume that high BMI and healthy means muscular, when you can have a normal body fat percentage as well as other measurements but still have a high BMI.
This is even ignoring the fact that even when you are genuinely obese and unhealthy, it often stems from body image issues in the first place. The same way a depressed person often goes “I’m doing everything wrong anyway so why bother even trying?” A fat person often is having the struggle of “I’m ugly anyway so why even bother trying to be pretty and healthy? Healthy just means I gotta live longer being ugly.” That’s why berating people for being fat usually doesn’t work. It just makes them feel worse and reinforces that idea they already have that they’re too ugly to bother. Sure, some people it might kick into gear to try their best to lose weight to prove they’re not ugly, but that’s the difference between somebody who still has hope and somebody that’s already lost it all.Yep agreed. I had a laugh when we got our Wii sports, and the weigh-in made my Mii fat, which didn’t represent my shape. But a bad UX from Nintendo on that.
This person gets it
Haha okay sorry if that comment was mean. I am exactly that type of person I described
Haha don’t worry about it. It’s the internet!
True
Hahahaha, I love how the OP just smacked your little made up anecdote down
More like phat
I feel like these clothes are the prefect match for the body type on the right. There are many clothes that might not fit the person the the right (also many wouldn’t fit the person on the left), but the ones in the comics are not these clothes.
I would have been that boyfriend. I always saw women like the right as more attractive and sexual than women like the left. It would infuriate a couple of my friends because I was a pretty boy who had the attention of women they found more appropriate, but I could never get them to understand that those women were like background extras to me in dating terms. It’s not even something I willfully do, it just feels natural and correct to want a bbw vixen.
Of course people have different taste, nothing weird or unusual about that.
Have we all forgotten about the Venus of Willendorf?
Men have always liked em thicc
I for sure don’t
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Hey mods… Ever heard of free speech? People can have opinions… Let people decide by upvotes and down votes. Why the unnecessary censoring?
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the censored comments are probably literal death threats against fat people or anyone who would dare support them 😬
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If you have a comeback this weak in the comic YOU drew, I don’t want to imagine the amount of cringe your friends felt around you
That comeback makes the right one 500 times more attractive js
A sharp wit is more attractive than any physical feature.
Why all those downvotes? What did I miss?
The girl on the right is fucking hot. The comic is for girls that do not look like her but think they do 😂
I think all women are beautiful but if you can’t live up to these strict standards, it’s not the end of the world.
Obese moment
Medically obese moment
