I’ve met this bird. It only prioritizes issues as urgent; when interacted with, it’ll say “yes, this is part of MVP”
I’ll kill you , you stupid bird!
If everything is high priority, nothing is high priority!
I had a list of 30 items I had to prioritize with clients the other day. We ended up with about two dozen Priority 1s and the rest were 2s.
So I had to go back and say, “let’s prioritize the 1s” and at least got them to agree to 1.A, 1.B, and 1.C.
This is why I really don’t think absolute priority values work. I much prefer relative priority, i.e. dragging cards into an order.
Of course, the challenge with that is in clarifying that it’s not a strict order in which tasks will be tackled.
You are a wizard.
I have had multiple managers who are incapable of understanding this.
Could be worse, mine have started saying “the MVP must be feature complete and 100% bug free” but there’s a 0% chance there’s enough budget for that.
And what sort of an MVP is feature-complete and completely bugless?
Wayne Gretzky? 🤷
Minimum Viable Player
The one in the manager’s mind, that also isn’t actually an MVP because sales over-promised and now you have to find a way to deliver.
Ahh, sales…
The best sales folks are the ones who promise customers things that are literally impossible (and I do mean literally, eg. promising something that essentially solves the halting problem). Those are always fun to sort out
I can deliver completely bugless. The secret is code that doesn’t do anything, acts the same as code that doesn’t exist.
A good project manager can make all the difference. I’ve worked with shitty ones and great ones. Great ones are on top of the project, fielding questions and wrangling together key players. Shit ones don’t do any of that then get surprised on their own call when they are behind schedule.
The more I learn about project managers the more I realize I am a project manager in a factory. Just a criminally underpaid project manager…
We don’t have titles here because god forbid anyone discover what their value actually is.
Then you ask a PM for specs before you start, or at least a brief with what needs to be done, and maybe a rough planning based on estimates and not what the customer said what are the deadlines, and they get really offended.
what does “get surprised on their own call” mean?
They are usually responsible for planning, generating, and running regular project team meetings. So they get people together but sometimes have done no work since the last meeting they held, so when someone has a reasonable issue that doesn’t meet with the pre done schedule 5 years ago when the project was first instigated, they have super Pikachu face and get mad at the actual doers because they don’t get to just report “on schedule” to their bosses. They could be called the landlords ofthe project based on the sentiment of the greater Lemmy community.
Watching the bean counter (who makes >350k) struggle to open a PDF is 🤌🤌🤌
That’s the life of a bean for ya
Just wait until they get a turkey stuck on their head.
And yet he is better then most
Better and most? Wow. But most only later? Huh.
Edit: not meant to be toxic… Guess the inflections weren’t conveyed well through text.
This is more toxic then funny.
I’m glad it was funny eventually at least 😆
Not sure whether to laugh or cry at this one…
Considering what a fucking tragicomedy life on Earth has turned into, I think doing both – possibly at the same time – is a valid reaction
80% of project managers are useless. But if you find a good one, they are worth their weight in gold.
did he also learn to complain about the quality of your work despite clearly being incapable (or unwilling) of doing it better himself?
I see you’ve met my boss.
When I see posts like this I just remember those old crotchety engineers who would gripe about “scrum bad”, then would absolutely refuse to participate in collaborative planning activities with their fellow teammates. They tended to be the primary source of bad vibes and work breakdowns
Found the project manager
They’ll be all replaced by simple AIs
Yeah scrums are great, and just somehow every single company that has them is doing them wrong, it is everyone else’s fault.
So we agree that copy pasting team culture, rather than giving the actual humans agency over the way that they organize themselves, is bad? Scrum is the name of a meeting, not one specific thing, it was just an example
Is there much difference between sitting or shitting on a blocking issue apart from the H?
