I will probably be harassed for this but I feel like I need to act.

The recent debate and decision by world to federate with threads seems to have sparked massive pro meta propaganda. Some accounts post completely one sided articles nearly every day, using carefully crafted language to shape meta as the „facilitator“ of the fediverse and some beligerent benevolent god. You dont have to scroll far in this community to find the posts I‘m talking about.

Please consider reporting these posts for the propaganda they are and asking your admins to defederate from threads.net.

To show you why meta is not welcome in the fediverse, here is a quote from the fedipact which is the reason I have defederated threads in my own instance.

THEIR LONG TRACK RECORD OF PURE EVIL

i’m just gonna paste some links here because there’s no point in paraphrasing what others have already said more eloquently

(if you’re wondering why i’m using archive.org it’s to break the fucking paywalls on these articles because fuck that, information wants to be free)

that time they helped facilitate a genocide

that time they helped try to rig an election

that time they did creepy behavioral experimentation on their users

so, yeah. there’s legiterally shitloads of precedent here. not to mention all the privacy concerns. which brings us to the need many feel to protect ourselves from this insidious megacorp…

Against one thing meta-shills often try to ascribe: we dont have a problem with the people on there but it is literally everything else.

Admins and Mods who read this, please consider signing the fedipact on https://fedipact.online

Thank you very much for reading and have a nice day.

Edit: wording, crossed out

  • Minotaur@lemm.eeEnglish
    7·
    8 months ago

    I’m going to be honest, I’m kind of of this mindset.

    I haven’t yet had a decent argument made to me regarding why I should personally care if TikTok or whatever has like… my age gender and what types of books I read and what apps I have on my phone.

    • Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.worldEnglish
      16·
      8 months ago

      The concern is what other pieces of information are they collecting, and when and who do they share that information with. Does it also collect data on what places you visit, or what kind of potentially controversial information you look up. People are concerned about things like visits to a hospital making its way to their employer and insurance against their will, or a trans person being outed by the ads they are served in front of their family, or maybe that the police will knock down their door because their GPS falsely placed them at the scene of a crime. Or what if they live in an actual fascist regime, and that government comes knocking because they searched for something verboten. Even aside from all that, all this data is inherently your’s, and yet all these companies collecting it are just taking it from you without your explicit knowledge or consent and without you seeing even a dime or what a quick search tells me is a multi-billion dollar industry.

      • Minotaur@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        8 months ago

        Are things like that happening though? With the insurance?

        I mean if the police want to come to my door and shoot me in the head or find a reason to brand me as a felon any day they can basically already do that. That goes for about anyone. It doesn’t really seem to matter if any data brokering company also happens to tag me as maybe being gay or having a 90% chance of supporting Palestine over Israel or similar

        I dunno. I just feel like a lot of the argument are contingent on envisioning some imminent future wherein every Western country turns into a completely fascist police state with like concentration camps - but also they can only get their information on local demographics based off of data sold by social media companies? And foreign ones at that? And even in this situation you’re not really doing anything about it but just trying to lie low and hope no one discovers you’re an atheist or whatever until you die of old age?

        It kind of reminds me of Pascals Wager. You know that one? Where it goes “ooo you have to believe in god because what if you don’t and the Christian god is real… you go to hell!?”. Like. Yeah, sure. I guess that could happen. But most people will shrug their shoulders at it, not really convinced. It requires a lot of assumptions

        • Plague_Doctor@lemmy.worldEnglish
          9·
          8 months ago

          If that company that has tagged you as gay sells the data that most often includes location, maybe even your face, to an anti-gay hate group that could end quite badly. It’s the same impluse that drove the red scare and the citizen made lists of " suspected communists" and they were blacklisted from their communities, harrassed or evenharmed or killed.

            • CatoblepasEnglish
              6·
              8 months ago

              Have you literally slept through the bomb threats being called in to children’s hospitals and schools over LGBTQ issues?

                • CatoblepasEnglish
                  3·
                  8 months ago

                  Ah, so you have moved from “nothing will happen” to “nothing will happen because of TikTok specifically.”

                  Like, good for you if you don’t have to worry about being added to a list of undesirables that the Jan 6 segment of the population would be interested in doing violence to because of your sexuality or gender? Some state governments are literally trying to obtain information on medical care provided to trans patients in completely different states, and people have been charged under anti-abortion laws based on their search history. If you don’t understand why queer people are more worried than normal about their safety and privacy go read the fucking news. So maybe sit on it and spin instead of telling people the queers are in hysterics over nothing. What are you even doing on Lemmy if you think digital privacy is bullshit?

                  • Minotaur@lemm.eeEnglish
                    1·
                    8 months ago

                    I think that if you went to a psychologist they could diagnose you with a legitimate preoccupation with this kind of thing

            • petrol_sniff_kingEnglish
              5·
              8 months ago

              Um, Charlottesville?
              Regular lynchings from the 1800s?
              I don’t really understand the question.

              • Minotaur@lemm.eeEnglish
                1·
                8 months ago

                You think that gay people will be lynched because they have Facebook downloaded on their phone.

                • petrol_sniff_kingEnglish
                  1·
                  8 months ago

                  If that helps you not to think about anything being said, sure.

                  Out of curiosity, what do you think a hate group does with information on their particular bogeyman?

    • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
      7·
      8 months ago

      Because they use that information to draw a psychological profile of people, and they use that to subtly push their agenda with content they show.

      Allegedly, anyway.

      For a more concrete example, though not quite like this, look at Tencent-funded western movies. They’ve all got a Chinese side character who’s always shown in a positive light.

      • Minotaur@lemm.eeEnglish
        4·
        8 months ago

        Who is “they” in this context?

        Also, how does your “concrete example” pertain to this discussion? That doesn’t have anything to do with data from social media or phones. It’s just a giant media company pushing having having some Chinese people in some movies.