WASHINGTON, D.C. – After narrowly backing Israel’s military action in Gaza in November, Americans now oppose the campaign by a solid margin. Fifty-five percent currently disapprove of Israel’s actions, while 36% approve.

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    Biden’s approval rating for his handling of the situation in the Middle East, at 27%, is his lowest among five issues tested in the survey. This is because far fewer Democrats (47%) approve of how he is handling the situation between the Israelis and Palestinians than approve of his handling of the economy, the environment, energy policy and foreign affairs, broadly. On those issues, no less than 66% of Democrats approve of Biden.

    Only further contributing to Biden’s low rating on the Middle East situation, just 21% of independents and 16% of Republicans approve of his performance on the issue.

    Wasn’t there something about Americans and not getting representation? I recall that being a big deal at some point in America…

    The DNC could have a slam dunk victory if only they’d run a candidate who wasn’t pro-genocide

    But all the party leaders take AIPAC money, they’d rather trump be president than a Dem who refuses to fund a genocide.

    Don’t blame voters for having standards, blame the DNC for caring more about how Israel can afford their genocide than preventing trump from getting a second term.

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      blame the DNC for caring more about how Israel can afford their genocide than preventing trump from getting a second term.

      The DNC shares the blame along with our shitty election system that prevents third parties from being viable, and allows money to buy whichever politician they like, etc.

      Even if the DNC dies and gets replaced with an actually leftist party, the new party will just rot from the inside out until we fix these things.

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        I’m mocking lemmy’s pro-genocide centrists who immediately call anyone who opposes Netanyahu’s genocide a Russian shill, yes.

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            Good for you. The centrists who love that the US is supporting the genocide they’ve always wanted scream “Russian” when anyone suggests that the US should stop supporting genocide.

            If you’ve never seen it, try being critical of the US’ support for Netanyahu.

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              I’ve never been accused of being Russian over my criticism of Nazrael. Did you read the article? It’s about how demographically, the statistical centrists have flipped against the Israelis.

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            They’re against Israel but when you say you’ll vote third party or sit out the vote you get people jumping at your throat and trying to deny reality by telling you to fall in like or we’ll get another Trump term. I don’t see it as much now but it was pretty common even just a couple of weeks ago.

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              They’re against Israel but when you say you’ll vote third party or sit out the vote

              No. They assume without evidence that opposition to genocide is advocacy for voting third party or staying home or voting for Trump.

              I see it constantly in this community.

              “Biden should stop supporting Netanyahu’s genocide.”

              “You think Trump would be better? Russian Chinese Republican nazi tankie child shill bot!!!”

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                This is not reality.

                The reality is that if you oppose genocide you get yelled at for continuing to show any support for the Biden campaign despite the fact that his opponent is the genocide-accelerationist candidate.

                And I’m someone who thinks we should defund Israel and then look away for a year or 5.

                Stop trying to have abstract parasocial arguments with entire demographics at once, you’re driving yourself nuts.

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                  This is not reality.

                  I’ve been called a russian in this very thread for saying that Biden should stop supporting genocide.

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      this comment made me feel the breadth of human emotion in one bite sized sentence, good one sksksksks

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      You pro-genocide, Israeli apologists wankers are the worst.

      “Booo hooo, the poor Israelis systematically displaced and subjugated an entire population and that population is fighting back? What nerve, the Palestinians should all die quietly so “settlers” can move into their homes.”

      You’re really just the worst people. I’d say you’re less than people but that’d make me just like the Israeli government.

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      Ah yes, the two options, genocide or be genocided.

      Benji wants Hamas to exist so he can tighten his control over Israel. He knows perfectly well the way towards eliminating Hamas is by removing the motivation to join a terrorist group. He knows perfectly well forcing Palestine to be a shit hole and killing Palestinians with little regard for who is and is not actually Hamas will only encourage people to join and oppose the IDF. Israel needs an enemy for Benjamin to justify his hard right authoritarian policy at home, and he knows perfectly well how to keep them around.

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      You mean like living under an occupation in an apartheid state?

      Hamas began twenty years into an Occupation enforced with direct and systemic violence, with the goal of ending the occupation.

      What Is Hamas? - Council on Foreign Relations

      What Does Hamas Actually Want? - NY Mag

      Collective punishment has been a deliberate Israeli tactic for decades with the Dahiya doctrine. Violence such as suicide bombings and rockets escalated in response to Israeli enforcement of the occupation and apartheid.

      Hamas Election - Snopes

      Hamas 1988 Charter and Revised 2017 Charter

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      But is Israel giving any reason to keep a peaceful behaviour in the region? They have more than a choice, and they chose the worst one yet.

      So, do you think Hamas is going to disappear after leveling whole cities? Or thar they need a specific general to land succesful attacks? Neither of those. They need hatred and a general idea of an enemy. And they’re giving them both.

      Secondly, Hamas is a loosely organized movement with multiple faces, they can afford terrorist attacks without harming their reputation, but Israel is a democratic state, they can’t do what Hamas did without harming their relationship with other countries on the long run. They cam burn bridges whereas Hamas never had such bridged in the first place.

      They need to move better if they want to survive as a state and as a democratic entity. Think before you act. The trace of destruction that they’re leaving behind may have been, in fact, forseen and understood by Hamas.