supermarkets often buy from suppliers who themselves are just middlemen. but regardless, all of those people are agents with free will, so no one else can be said to be resposible for their actions except the person who is doing teh action.
You’re just grasping at straws. Capitalism obviously sucks at self-regualtion and voting with your dollar to the fullest extent you can is important. Paying for a distrubution that pays for a hitman / breeder is no different than paying for a hitman / breeder. Buying meat isn’t necesary, you can buy non-animal based products and the supplier wont pay for more animals to be bred and killed. Even if you don’t push the supplier over the threshold of a purchase, its gambling eachtime till you shoot the bullet.
You can have culturally appropriate foods without killing. Vegans exist everywhere in the world. Culture doesn’t make things that are wrong, right. Genital mutilation and misogyny are wrong, even if they’re apart of someones culture.
You pretending that your lifetime commitment of supporting an animal abuse industry doesn’t lead to blood shed is patronozing lol. You can make your own hoops and pretend they don’t lead to suffering but they do. You are responsible for their deaths if you pay for them. Stop making excuses to hurt more animals
I do when it’s violating another being’s atonomy who can suffer lol. You’re the aggressor in the scenario. I am doing the baseline, you’re voting for death
the animal is dead long before most people walk into the store or restaurant.
Because the consumers paid for that to occur. Paying for steaks makes it so a cow will be bred and killed.
that’s not causal
Translation problem? Casual doesn’t make any sense
i am so excited for you to learn about causal relationships
farmers aren’t usually paid by consumers
They’re paid by supermarkets which are paid by consumers
supermarkets often buy from suppliers who themselves are just middlemen. but regardless, all of those people are agents with free will, so no one else can be said to be resposible for their actions except the person who is doing teh action.
You’re just grasping at straws. Capitalism obviously sucks at self-regualtion and voting with your dollar to the fullest extent you can is important. Paying for a distrubution that pays for a hitman / breeder is no different than paying for a hitman / breeder. Buying meat isn’t necesary, you can buy non-animal based products and the supplier wont pay for more animals to be bred and killed. Even if you don’t push the supplier over the threshold of a purchase, its gambling eachtime till you shoot the bullet.
your hitman analogy doesn’t apply to buying a product on a shelf
Yes it does.
saying it doesn’t make it so.
I’m not responsible for what other people choose to do, and there is nothing immoral about buying culturally appropriate foods.
You can have culturally appropriate foods without killing. Vegans exist everywhere in the world. Culture doesn’t make things that are wrong, right. Genital mutilation and misogyny are wrong, even if they’re apart of someones culture.
but nothing is immoral about eating meat or dairy or eggs or honey.
you don’t know what I need and it’s patronizing for you to tell me what I should be eating.
You pretending that your lifetime commitment of supporting an animal abuse industry doesn’t lead to blood shed is patronozing lol. You can make your own hoops and pretend they don’t lead to suffering but they do. You are responsible for their deaths if you pay for them. Stop making excuses to hurt more animals
patronizing would be me presuming how you should take care of your own needs.
your storytelling is not a substitute for causation.
I do when it’s violating another being’s atonomy who can suffer lol. You’re the aggressor in the scenario. I am doing the baseline, you’re voting for death
I’m not voting at all.
what does the capacity to suffer matter?