People without an inner voice have poorer verbal memory
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The vast majority of people have an ongoing conversation with themselves, an inner voice, that plays an important role in their daily lives. But between 5-10 per cent of the population do not have the same experience of an inner voice, and they find it more difficult to perform certain verbal memory tasks, new research shows.
  • @Dasus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    15•1 month ago

    Every time?

    No.

    Easy example; picture an item in your head. Now flip it.

    No language necessary or really even applicable.

    But to learn that some people never have an inner dialogue…? That sounds so weird.

    • @CoggyMcFee@lemmy.worldEnglish
      19•1 month ago

      Some people can’t picture an item in their head, or can barely do so and wouldn’t be able to flip it.

      • @Dasus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5•1 month ago

        Yeah complete aphantasia is crazy.

        The point is that no-one does that sort of thinking with language, as it’s not really applicable.

        • KillingTimeItselfEnglish
          2•1 month ago

          it’s wack, shits even weirder when you dream.

          My dreams often get retconned into the real world, unless my brain immediately determines them to be bullshit. Which is uh, unsettling.

        • @DriftinGrifterEnglish
          2•1 month ago

          i can imagine textures and tastes and stuff and geometry relatively complex but when i try to imagine colors all i get is a flat color diagram or an empty room with only one colour

    • KillingTimeItselfEnglish
      4•1 month ago

      oh my friend, you have made the most relevant mistake in the book, may i introduce you to aphantasics? People who are incapable of visualizing something in their mind.

      • @EmptySlimeEnglish
        1•1 month ago

        It’s hard to describe for me. Cuz I don’t actually “see” anything I try to imagine. If I close my eyes and try to visualize say an image of a desk at a window all I see is darkness. The image exists, I can I guess I’d say “feel” it there and i could even draw it. But I can’t “see” it. Like the part of me that’s making the picture is drawing it on a live stream but the part of me that should be seeing the stream has the monitor off.

        Same with the whole internal monologue thing. I don’t “hear” the words in my head or “see” them written out in my imagination but I kinda just “feel” them there. It poses a problem when my mind really gets going because there will be often like half a dozen different distinct thoughts I can feel in there. So I end up having to talk to myself out loud in order to keep from losing whatever thread I’m trying to follow.

        • KillingTimeItselfEnglish
          1•1 month ago

          i like to separate it between visualizing something, and conceptualizing something, because if someone says a visualize a sphere, you know what a sphere is, you simply don’t need to visualize it in order to conceptualize what it should look like, thus leading to a “pseudo image”

          but if someone were to say visualize the tread pattern of an all weather tire, you probably wouldn’t be able to do that very well, since you likely don’t have a very solid conceptual understanding of what it looks like.

    • @Ookami38@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1•1 month ago

      Yeah, those things are still almost entirely word-baaed for me. Low level aphantasia, I can’t form a very clear picture in my head, but my inner monologue does a lot of lifting.