• @mapiki@discuss.online
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      613 months ago

      “a protest against Dutch subsidies and tax breaks to companies linked to fossil fuel industries”

      We can do all the activities you mention with a much lower impact. And fighting climate change allows many farmers in developing countries to actually survive. (Think of the problems with cocoa harvests failing or with Mongolian herders losing herds three years in a row instead of once a decade.)

    • @Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
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      Ranching and fishing, yes. But considering that worldwide more than 70% of agriculture is used to support ranching, it definitely seems that ranching is reducing the amount of food worldwide, not increasing it.

      Edit: Also should mention, generally when climate activists talk about drastically cutting down or outright ending ranching, that’s for the developed world, where healthy alternatives exist. Nobody sane is talking about going and taking the dairy cows off of Indian villagers who depend on it for survival.

      Also, we have destroyed the global aquaculture with overfishing.

      • mars296
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        363 months ago

        The person you are responding to is not arguing in good faith. I was going to say don’t feed the troll but maybe it’s better to refute the BS so unsuspecting people don’t read them thinking they are correct.

        • @Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
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          183 months ago

          Absolutely. I think it’s better to refute than to ignore (within reason) for people reading through the thread. Not for the benefit of the troll.

      • Gormadt
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        193 months ago

        Cows in general are so ludacrisly environmentally impactful it’s crazy

        • @Zorsith
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          63 months ago

          And beef frankly isn’t even that great IMO. Lamb tastes better to me, plus sheepsmilk cheese is DELICIOUS

          • @Marin_Rider@aussie.zone
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            43 months ago

            ever since I tasted oat milk ill never go back to animal milk at all. I tried for years to like soy or almond but never really could get into it, now all that’s sorted

            • @Zorsith
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              53 months ago

              Lactose intolerance gives me little other choice (doesn’t always stop me when it comes to cheese tho) 😅 oat milk is delicious but doesn’t always work for cooking purposes, almonds are atrocious as far as sustainability goes.

          • Gormadt
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            33 months ago

            And goat (and goat’s milk) is also amazing IMO

            But I may be biased as my family had goats when I was a kid

            • @Zorsith
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              23 months ago

              Never really had the opportunity to try goat (outside of cheese). Not as common to find in my area, I think I’ve only seen it on a menu in a Mexican restaurant