Grimes either doesn’t really have a problem with what Musk says or she’s a complete fucking idiot who had 3 kids with a man she knows to be a piece of shit.
He’s a malignant narcissist. It takes a long time to escape that kind of programing. Being in a relationship like that is basically like being in a cult.
spot on. doesn’t help that he’s a household name with lots of fanboys. actual notoriety of a malignant narcissist partner can easily amplify the self doubt that gets spurred on by gaslighting and other manipulative methods. not to mention she has children with him so she can’t just cut him off completely. can’t say i feel for her, but i sure would want to be in her place.
Abusers are often victims first. You can’t really look at Musk, or any billionaire, and think, “yeah, this person is totally fine.” He’s not. None of them are.
Patriarchy and capitalism reward the unhealthy coping mechanism he uses to protect his ego. Patriarchy specifically asserts that those coping mechanisms are not only normal but optimal.
He’s absolutely a victim of this system and in a functional one he would be given help instead of power, which is literally the opposite of what he needs to be able to recognize his problems and heal.
He is who he is because the only way he can see himself as valuable at all is if he’s basically the savior of the world. Anything less than that is unacceptable garbage. Anyone who believes differently must be manipulated or destroyed.
There’s no way he can ever be happy. He needs help. It’s tragic that we live in a society where he can’t even see how much he needs help.
None of that takes away from the behaviors he expresses. The fact that his manipulation of others comes from his insecurity doesn’t take away from the manipulation, the feeling of unreality, that comes from experimenting that manipulation. Both of these things can and do exist at the same time.
I would suggest that narcissists and borderlines are vulnerable minorities solely because they almost always refuse treatment until it is no longer their legal choice to do so.
An adult with untreated narcissism is almost certainly going to be the least vulnerable person in all of their chosen relationships at any time.
We can recognize that somebody was a victim as a child, and recognize that may be the reason they are a danger today, but if they are untreated, and if you personally aren’t a doctor, you are likelier to be their victim than the other way around.
Nothing strange happened. You attempted sophistry in defense of a person who chooses right wing demagoguery which people may correctly or incorrectly diagnose as a consequence of having a personality disorder and you did so knowing full well we are in a climate where people are tired of right demagoguery. If, as you say, you are interested in scientific veracity and focus on dispassionate reasoned discussion how can you also not understand that sticking your dick in a live toaster will get you burned?
I also believe this. Seen it happen before. Somebody introduces an asshole to drugs thinking it will open their mind, because it happened to them. Pikachu face when they just become a bigger asshole.
There’s a track record to suggest Grimes is a Nazi sympathizer. Elon’s LGBTQ+ rhetoric just hits closer to home, so she clutches pearls over it. Not a fan of either of them.
Grimes either doesn’t really have a problem with what Musk says or she’s a complete fucking idiot who had 3 kids with a man she knows to be a piece of shit.
He’s a malignant narcissist. It takes a long time to escape that kind of programing. Being in a relationship like that is basically like being in a cult.
Money probably helps too.
spot on. doesn’t help that he’s a household name with lots of fanboys. actual notoriety of a malignant narcissist partner can easily amplify the self doubt that gets spurred on by gaslighting and other manipulative methods. not to mention she has children with him so she can’t just cut him off completely. can’t say i feel for her, but i sure would want to be in her place.
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Abusers are often victims first. You can’t really look at Musk, or any billionaire, and think, “yeah, this person is totally fine.” He’s not. None of them are.
Patriarchy and capitalism reward the unhealthy coping mechanism he uses to protect his ego. Patriarchy specifically asserts that those coping mechanisms are not only normal but optimal.
He’s absolutely a victim of this system and in a functional one he would be given help instead of power, which is literally the opposite of what he needs to be able to recognize his problems and heal.
He is who he is because the only way he can see himself as valuable at all is if he’s basically the savior of the world. Anything less than that is unacceptable garbage. Anyone who believes differently must be manipulated or destroyed.
There’s no way he can ever be happy. He needs help. It’s tragic that we live in a society where he can’t even see how much he needs help.
None of that takes away from the behaviors he expresses. The fact that his manipulation of others comes from his insecurity doesn’t take away from the manipulation, the feeling of unreality, that comes from experimenting that manipulation. Both of these things can and do exist at the same time.
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I would suggest that narcissists and borderlines are vulnerable minorities solely because they almost always refuse treatment until it is no longer their legal choice to do so.
An adult with untreated narcissism is almost certainly going to be the least vulnerable person in all of their chosen relationships at any time.
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We can recognize that somebody was a victim as a child, and recognize that may be the reason they are a danger today, but if they are untreated, and if you personally aren’t a doctor, you are likelier to be their victim than the other way around.
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Alex Jones is a diagnosed narcissist. Tell me about his victimization and how he isn’t an abuser.
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Nothing strange happened. You attempted sophistry in defense of a person who chooses right wing demagoguery which people may correctly or incorrectly diagnose as a consequence of having a personality disorder and you did so knowing full well we are in a climate where people are tired of right demagoguery. If, as you say, you are interested in scientific veracity and focus on dispassionate reasoned discussion how can you also not understand that sticking your dick in a live toaster will get you burned?
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Gross
I hate this ride and I want people I know to get some fucking help instead of narcisizing all over my life.
His personality probably changed when he started taking all the drugs.
He’s always been a spoiled heir with massive wealth from apartheid and blood gems
How good could his personality ever have been, truly
well, according to legend Siddhartha Gautama was raised as a prince and he still figured out that privilege and wealth causes suffering. alas.
He shared pictures of her c+section against her will, is that drug behavior or asshole behavior? You decide!
What the hell. Why would you ever do something like that?
He wanted to brag about his skull size. I wish I was joking.
Or when he stopped taking specific drugs
Or when he started hanging out with rich right wing weirdos.
WHy not both?
I also believe this. Seen it happen before. Somebody introduces an asshole to drugs thinking it will open their mind, because it happened to them. Pikachu face when they just become a bigger asshole.
I get the impression she has very little “real world” experience, particularly with people.
I watched my mom go through a lot of bad relationships and thought the exact same thing.
Sometimes people can’t get out. Sometimes they don’t think they want to, until something finally gets through to them.
I don’t blame her. You can’t help who you love. It is really sad, though.
There’s a track record to suggest Grimes is a Nazi sympathizer. Elon’s LGBTQ+ rhetoric just hits closer to home, so she clutches pearls over it. Not a fan of either of them.