The Israel Defense Forces releases surveillance camera footage from Shifa Hospital showing Hamas terrorists bringing a Nepali and Thai citizen who were abducted from Israel on October 7 to the medical center.

  • Hatsune Miku
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    257 months ago

    they haven’t actually bombed al shifa, or any hospital for that matter.

      • @DolphinMath@slrpnk.netOP
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        7 months ago

        I mean, I read through what you posted and it literally never says Israel bombed hospitals.

        HRW just cites a Tweet by “WHO in occupied Palestine” that is very non-specific while sounding specific.

        The relevant bits from the Tweet used as the primary source by HRW:

        “We are horrified at the latest reports of attacks on and in the vicinity of Al-Shifa Hospital, Al-Rantisi Naser Pediatric Hospital, Al-Quds Hospital, and others in Gaza city and northern Gaza, killing many, including children.”

        “Over the past 36 days, WHO has recorded at least 137 attacks on health care in Gaza, resulting in 521 deaths and 686 injuries, including 16 deaths and 38 injuries of health workers on duty.”

        • @Catoblepas
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          77 months ago

          If I thought I knew better from my seat in a chair what was going on in Gaza than the humanitarian organizations on the ground there then I would simply log off and touch grass.

          • @DolphinMath@slrpnk.netOP
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            107 months ago

            I mean, when you are calling people liars because they don’t agree with you, especially when your own sources don’t support what you say, I’m pretty sure that’s a sign you need to log off and touch grass.

            Is it possible Israel has bombed hospitals in Gaza? Certainly.

            Did you provide proof? No.

          • @palal@lemmy.ml
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            87 months ago

            Clearly the UNRWA and the doctors at MSF don’t know what they’re talking about. Only the IDF does.

        • @Catoblepas
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          37 months ago

          Super cool how lying about hospitals not being bombed is “civil” but calling it out for the lie that it is somehow isn’t.

          • @jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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            17 months ago

            Attacking the contents of an article is absolutely allowed, attacking other users is absolutely NOT allowed.

            So in your comment:

            “Liar. https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/11/14/gaza-unlawful-israeli-hospital-strikes-worsen-health-crisis

            That’s fine. “Liar” is maybe a little strong, I personally would have allowed it, other mods may not have. Your mileage may vary.

            It was the personal attack against the other user AFTER that where you crossed the line and caused the comment to be removed.

            • @Catoblepas
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              47 months ago

              I disagree that saying someone is ignorant or that I would STFU if I was that ignorant is a personal attack. I also do not see how that is somehow more objectionable than lying about bombed civilians.

                • @Catoblepas
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                  7 months ago

                  I haven’t received notifications for any of those other warnings as far as I can tell, the links in the log won’t actually load for me. I also stand by them and encourage everyone to check out my forbidden opinions. It’s hilarious that one of them is literally a single sentence of me asking a mod for clarification.

                  Btw, why is lying about murdered civilians fine but calling someone ignorant is beyond the pale?

                  • @jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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                    17 months ago

                    Not all mods bother replying to comments they remove, I choose to because I believe transparency is an important part of moderation.

                    As to the question, engaging in personal attacks violates rule 5 in the sidebar (which I wrote BTW):

                    “Rule 5: Keep it civil. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (perjorative, perjorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (perjorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!”