The Israel Defense Forces releases surveillance camera footage from Shifa Hospital showing Hamas terrorists bringing a Nepali and Thai citizen who were abducted from Israel on October 7 to the medical center.

  • Catoblepas
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    1 year ago

    I haven’t received notifications for any of those other warnings as far as I can tell, the links in the log won’t actually load for me. I also stand by them and encourage everyone to check out my forbidden opinions. It’s hilarious that one of them is literally a single sentence of me asking a mod for clarification.

    Btw, why is lying about murdered civilians fine but calling someone ignorant is beyond the pale?

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      Not all mods bother replying to comments they remove, I choose to because I believe transparency is an important part of moderation.

      As to the question, engaging in personal attacks violates rule 5 in the sidebar (which I wrote BTW):

      “Rule 5: Keep it civil. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (perjorative, perjorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (perjorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!”

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        Ok, I understand that your stance is that ignorance is not a neutral statement of fact but a personal attack, and I do appreciate you replying unlike the last mod I asked that just deleted my comment without answering. Which I also had no idea about because I don’t monitor the mod log of every place I comment.

        It’s just a really awful policy for the exact reason I’ve been underlining over and over: if polite lies about mass murder are fine and calling someone ignorant for saying heinous shit isn’t fine, you’re just creating an environment where impoliteness is worse than bigotry. And yeah I see the rules against that, doesn’t seem to be doing anything about the overt lie that hospitals haven’t been bombed.

        “It’s the rules” is a terrible justification for leaving up lies about mass murdered civilians as long as they’re polite.

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          1 year ago

          If the facts are on your side, I absolutely encourage you to refute incorrect information, just don’t attack the other user in the process.

          “I’m sorry, you’re wrong. - Link.”

          “Reality disagrees. - Link.”

          That’s all cool.

          Ad hominem attacks cross the line. When you start going after the other user, that’s a problem and we don’t want flamewar threads top to bottom. That’s why the rule exists.

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            1 year ago

            If you don’t want flame wars then removing obvious flame bait–like lies about mass murdered civilians and hospitals not being bombed–would go a lot farther than deleting everyone that calls that shit what it is.

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                If you want to run a community where it’s more offensive to say someone is ignorant than it is to lie about mass murdered civilians I’m not under the delusion that I can make you do anything else. Just don’t expect me to not say it’s a shitty policy or to ignore what it allows and what it doesn’t allow.

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                    1 year ago

                    So the rule actually isn’t “don’t make personal attacks”, it’s “don’t tell the mods that their policies are bad.” Maybe you should add that to the sidebar.