• InsurgentRat
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    289 months ago

    This ban will allow the Israeli state to continue murdering an entire people unchecked

    • @emma@beehaw.org
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      89 months ago

      What a bizarre and unfounded leap. Your assertion is completely and entirely false.

      • raccoona_nongrata
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        9 months ago

        The median age in Gaza is 18…half the population is literal children because no one lives long enough to grow old. The reality of what Israel is doing to the people in Palestine is not something that can be hidden from and handwaved away any more.

        • interolivary
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          169 months ago

          You underestimate people’s capacity for handwaving atrocities away, especially when it comes to Muslims

      • @sanzky@beehaw.org
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        Unfortunately most western states have completely ignored for years the atrocities committed against the people in Palestine. Not allowing these kinds of protests also prevents people in those countries from voicing their rejection of their governments position, making it more difficult for those governments to change their postures.

        Putting pressure on Israel’s allies is for most people the only way they have to support Palestinians

    • @apis@beehaw.org
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      49 months ago

      Am against this ban, but I do not see how protests in France would be any kind of check on the actions of the Israeli military in Palestine.

      • InsurgentRat
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        59 months ago

        The Israeli government is able to pursue its horrible policies because of a lack of support for palastinian people.

        Preventing protest in powerful nations stops public opinion changing. Public opinion allows the political establishment to continue to avoid historical responsibility.

        If western nations drop support of Israel and start using sanctions etc it would be much harder to destroy Gaza.

        • @apis@beehaw.org
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          29 months ago

          I feel like this would need protests well beyond the scale I can imagine any of the populations in these nations mounting, and that they’d have to be backed by widespread blockades & strikes.

          But mostly that very little would slow Israel down, short of the US intervening militarily in the next few hours.

            • @apis@beehaw.org
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              49 months ago

              Of course.

              I guess I’ve become very pessimistic over the years, which is not good.

              Like I’ll still turn out to stuff, but with none of the hope in my heart I’d have had in the past.

              • InsurgentRat
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                29 months ago

                I understand, today my own nation votes to slap down a hand outstretched in peace and warmth. In my own state police deploy anti terror powers to crack down on anyone attending a rally against Israeli militancy.

                But if we give up nothing will improve, and everything good we have started small and grew into unstoppable movements.

                • @apis@beehaw.org
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                  29 months ago

                  Am lucky on this one, in that my country is generally supportive of Palestinians and even our neoliberal government has been critical of Israel’s behaviour, now and also in the past. It is unlikely that they’d ban the protests.

                  Though if they did, it could easily result in far more people taking to the streets.

                  Wishing you all the best in your endeavours, wherever you are.