• Zorsith
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      If anyone could climb out of hell, i would bet on Teddy.

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          But he did establish the national park service, which I think lands him in the secret third place

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            He did that so he could enjoy his hunting trips in peace. There was also a forgettable president or two that seemed like better people than him. He’s top 5, but not better than Lincoln or Carter.

            Carter was almost a neolib, but he promoted the humanitarian side of liberalism better than almost every other president. He was too weak for the neoliberals and too neoliberal for the social democrats.