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    Great, so it’s still wrong 1 out of 20 times, and just got even more energy intensive to run.

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      Genuine question: how energy intensive is it to run a model compared to training it? I always thought once a model is trained it’s (comparatively) trivial to query?

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          How much energy does it take for the PC to be on and the user to type out that email manually?

          I assume we will get to a point where energy required starts to reduce as the computing power increases with moores law. However, it’s awful for the environment in the mean time.

          I don’t doub that rather than reducing energy, instead they will use more complex models requiring more power for these tasks for the foreseeable future. However eventually it will be diminishing returns on power and efficiency will be more profitable.

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        For the small ones, with GPUs a couple hundred watts when generating. For the large ones, somewhere between 10 to 100 times that.

        With specialty hardware maybe 10x less.

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          A lot of the smaller LLMs don’t require GPU at all - they run just fine on a normal consumer CPU.

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            2 days ago

            yeah but 10x slower, at speeds that just don’t work for many use cases. When you compare energy consumption per token, there isn’t much difference.

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            Wouldn’t running on a CPU (while possible) make it less energy efficient, though?

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              It depends. A lot of LLMs are memory-constrained. If you’re constantly thrashing the GPU memory it can be both slower and less efficient.

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        Still requires thirsty datacenters that use megawatts of power to keep them online and fast for thousands of concurrent users