Thank you for sharing the article! Please note that this is last’s weeks episode, the newest episode went out yesterday: https://fediversereport.com/last-week-in-fediverse-ep-70/

Small detail that I think is actually quite meaningful:

The article is written by editor-in-chief Nilay Patel. Nilay does not usually write a whole lot of articles, as he’s the boss, and the articles he writes are often more commentary (like the famous ‘welcome to hell’ article for Elon, or his running joke on Brother printers). Within The Verge its usually more David Pierce as a true fediverse believer than Nilay.

Futhermore, earlier this week Nilay posted on Threads a response to Ghost’s survey about federation: “Curious how you approach federation for paid newsletters! (Because we want to figure that out too)” https://www.threads.net/@reckless1280/post/C51n5gmvvCJ

Thanks! And yeah, last few weeks have gotten wayy busier with news, its quite noticeable to me. I’m especially excited that there is lots of news outside of the microblogging sphere as well, that part is the most interesting part of the fediverse to me

(mentions to my indieweb account are still broken for some reason, no idea why haha)

The value is in the granular way that you can connect communities. You’re totally right that there are a lot of cases where there are good reasons not to connect communities. That goes across instance borders (like you said, Beehaw and Hexbear would preferably not connect communities), but even for instances that are similar, not all communities need to be connected. In the current example of the Social Hub forum and the NodeBB development forum, only 2 communities (categories) are connected, and the rest is not.

yeah its a big deal because of the spillover effort on how much easier this makes conversations with other gov officials about setting up a fedi server. I’m somewhat involved in this process at this point, and now being able to say that ‘biden is on the fediverse’ really impacts lobbying for the fediverse more broadly

do you mean something like vocata? https://codeberg.org/Vocata/vocata

think that would be super valuable to have for sure, but my non-dev vibes say that its probably above a one-man project, so might be hard to pull off?

i dunno, never used really used friendica much. reply didnt get send back to friendica tho

huh, i wouldnt have expected that actually, but at least its nice that something works

yeah that makes sense. thanks a lot of testing with me tho, much appreciated!

oh, final check out of interest: did this comment made from lemmy show up in your hachyderm notifications at least?

now this thing is just fucking with me lmao. how??? im so confused. i tried it on another account on mastodon.nl as well, plus I can find lemmy.ml posts if i search for them from indieweb.social, so it does not seem like the instances are defederated

wuut, how does it work for you

Oh thats an interesting question! I’m assuming you are talking about the UX/UI of instance selection?

And thats not something I have written about (neither does another article pop into my mind either sadly), but interesting idea for an article for sure to write about

Heya! Good answers earlier by you!

Yeah I think I’ll have to get into that, but I’m starting to run into the limit of not being a programmer myself, and information is pretty scarce on ATproto. The article differs from their own federation architecture description from earlier in the year, simply because its outdated and noone has formally written down the new info, so that was a bit of a struggle haha https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/5-5-2023-federation-architecture

At any rate, the PDS’s are amenable for sure. Robin Berjon is the furthest along with thinking here, with his AP over AT piece: https://berjon.com/ap-at/ Responses I’ve seen havent suggested its technically impossible, but probably difficult for reasons that I tuned out of reading because I didnt understand :D

Beyond that, people keep talking about the lexicon and how that at is core is also versatile; similar to how fedi has Mastodon’s type=Note that everyone uses, even though you can create any ‘type’ you want. I’m pretty sure that nobody has done that yet tho.

I actually set out to answer this question in a blog post, but it turns out that the answer is quite complicated, so I have to write an entire series about it. First part I published this week, which explains all the different components that make up the Bluesky network:

https://fediversereport.com/how-bluesky-works-the-network-components/

I don’t think that they’ll run into the exact same problems that AP-fedi has, as the design decisions are often made specifically to avoid some of these. However, their design decisions create new sets of problems for the network, which I’ll get into later

they’re working on a new project that will supersede audon, apparently https://firefish.social/notes/9j5dw744p5qnqwxp

Strongly agreed.

Some other loose thoughts related to this:

• a very similar phenomenon is visible in Bluesky, but in that case it skews heavily towards older millenials who are trying to recreate a culture that used to exist on Twitter, and is now dead. Bluesky is fundamentally even more backward looking than AP-fedi, as ATProto really cannot do much else than microblogging
• its been striking for me for a while that the fediverse developer community isnt able to become an actual community, and instead has been trying to reinvent community initiatives outside of fedi for a while, and they all bleed out. Think there are lots of reasons for that, but if the people building a social network cannot manage to use their own tools to use that social network to become a social community, than that usually does not bode well
• there is a very loosely defined ‘community’ of people who are interested in talking about fedi on a meta (not Meta) level. youve been involved, so you know most of the names. Again, its striking to me that this group (me included) hasnt really transformed into an actual community, and instead its fleeting ephemeral posts on a feed that only some of the regulars see and comment on.

yeah its great to have more managed hosting options. The UX is also really well done, which is great and something I dont see to often in these places. Need to get some time next few days to start up a new lemmy project with this

I’m very curious as to what people’s view on etiquette is regarding submitting your own content. I write a weekly newsletter about the fediverse which is pretty relevant to this community for example. But I’m also quite aware of reddiquette thats pretty hesitant on submitting your own stuff, as it can get spammy really fast. Would love to hear.

https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/173366/lemmy-ml-is-no-longer-shadowbanning-kbin#comments

seems like a side effect of lemmy devs being overloaded with info and messages getting on a long backlog

haha well think it mostly worked :D

and thanks for the shoutout! I do need to update my bio and get proper accounts. For now just testing out the water a little bit, havent really fully decided on which server I want to pick. reason Im replying with 2 accounts is that federation between kbin.social and lemmy.ml specifically is still broken, couldnt even see your reply. Not sure how to approach that yet