@Yeet It does look kinda messy from lemmy.ml, though. Seems not to know how to strip HTML…

@Yeet well it seems to have worked as the Fediverae group boosted this onto my timeline!

I thought untitled posts would be discarded. Maybe I was wrong?

@rysiek yeah, that’s the sort of distinction I was looking for. thanks!

@alma @anders this also presents the opportunity to allow users to consent to being listed, as ryziek has been arguing for elsewhere in this thread.

@rysiek I was not talking precisely about scraping toots, I was asking whether you consider Google, Bing, etc uses of opt-out web spiders to be unethical, but fair enough. (Also, not interested in defending OP given the clarification that he is talking about searching the fediverse.)

@rysiek (though if you’d like to argue that search/spidering requires opt-in consent in all cases, I’m happy to hear that argument)

@rysiek I don’t think Anders is asking about a search engine for the fediverse, this sounds more like a federated or P2P Google/DuckDuckGo replacement.

@anders There would need to be a way for that search engine to collect data that is both possible to contribute to as an individual, and doesn’t unintentionally DDoS sites it indexes, and that’s the challenge I think. Spiders collect a LOT of data. Right now the closest thing we have to decentralized search, is metasearch engines like Searx, which query and cache results from all the major search providers that run their own spiders.

@eshep @serenity @rom That’s not always because of a speed issue though. I usually see that on messages that were boosted or searched recently, in which case it’s no different from other AP servers.

@poVoq not yet, my experience is mostly with Calckey

@rom @serenity eh, it’s not blazing fast but it’s quite usable and definitely beats Misskey/Calckey in that department

@OptimusPrime It’s likely that this news article is using a different data source (e.g. instances.social) but you can go to [software].fediverse.observer/stats to see the data that @fediverseobserver has collected about this (their numbers are usually lower than the popular data from instances.social due to excluding dead instances, but they include Diaspora). For example, lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats shows 1422 monthly active users for Lemmy.

@sovietsnake @poVoq I dunno, are people so excited about federation that they’ll flock to Forgejo over it? I think ease of contribution is the critical thing here.

Codeberg does already have a large userbase though, and increasingly Gitea and Forgejo are looking like way more compelling platforms than even GitLab. More community-focused compared to GitLab’s enterprise focus (their website is incomprehensible to anyone who isn’t super well versed in big tech lingo) and slowly gaining the upper hand in the features department. I’ll definitely use it for my next project that needs a git host.

kind.social for Mastodon, though I keep thinking of moving everything to Friendica here on libranet.de.

I also have a PeerTube account on tube.tchncs.de.

Since Lemmy and Pleroma both support the ActivityPub standard, they can federate, and the servers will pass requests between each other. However, I expect it to be a similar experience to following Lemmy communities from Mastodon - you can follow and comment, but not much else, and it may be impractical. Pleroma does seem to have a “subject” field for messages, but I’m not sure it’s compatible with Lemmy (in fact, it seems equivalent to the content warnings on Mastodon.)

@OptimusPrime Some differences I’ve noticed from a user perspective:
- Indeed, the default frontend is lighter, and a bit more customizable
- Post formatting in either Markdown, HTML, or BBCode is available
- You can react to messages with arbitrary emojis
- Polls can have more than four options
- My instance has an instant messaging “chats” plugin; it seems to only work with other Pleroma users, but it’s potentially useful

And some cons:
- It’s a lot tougher to find a good instance, since Pleroma unfortunately attracts a lot of bad actors. Read your instance’s rules very carefully and skeptically, and check the public (local) timeline to make sure it’s a good fit for you.
- By default, timelines do not auto-update and you have to click on a button to reveal new messages.

I personally like Friendica the most out of all the platforms, but Pleroma isn’t bad at all from a usability standpoint.