I’m not sure we need to waste a lot of time on the lunatics that make up that 10%. You can’t get 90% approval for fresh baked cookies, or friendly golden retriever puppies. While it would be nice for there to simply be no traitors within our borders, it’s not really a realistic goal.
Instead, let’s celebrate that by and large we’re all on the same page. Elbows up. One way or the other, old age or a bullet, we die Canadians.
Despite every horrible thing they stand for - it is completely reasonable to me if the thing you’re most pissed at them for is cultural appropriation of Norse Mythology. I know when people use my country’s flag in their hate-fests, it angers me almost as much as the hate itself.
Sons of Odin are a Canadian white supremacist movement with Viking inspired iconography and a stated mission to “stop the spread of Shariah Law”. They were started in 2018 and started with a very media-savvy push as a “service organization” doing park clean ups and handing out water and granola bars to homeless people. Their intent was to grow to spread their Xenophobia and anti-islamic rhetoric.
They aren’t a large group, maybe 15k members coast to coast and that’s spread pretty thinly. As for why I picked them? I dunno- memorable name and more “Canadian” than name dropping the Klan.
I started boycotting everything America like 5 weeks ago Mr. Reich, and that was before the US started disappearing dissidents, and deporting innocent people to prisons in El Salvador. I’m glad smart people seem to agree with me. I’m glad my countrymen agree with me.
And yeah, I did it because Trump insulted and threatened my home. But I won’t necessarily stop when he’s gone. Depends how he goes. America rises up, arrests him and his cronies and cleans house - then maybe we regain some trust.
In the more likely event he dies of a stroke later this year and his regime tears itself apart with infighting- then it isn’t really “Donald Trump’s America”, I have a problem with. The US is, to put it mildly, an unreliable and volatile nation and we won’t be trusting or dealing with them again any time soon.
I would like “Kills Nazis” to be a common, simple part of Canadian identity, like hockey and manners. Basically, I want this:
“Oh Bob? Yeah he’s just a good old Canadian boy. Smooth wristshot, absolute sniper. Always helps his neighbour shovel the walk. There was a demonstration by a bunch of those “Sons of Odin” fuckers downtown last week and he stopped by to huck bricks at them and protect counterprotestors. You know, we should have him over for a beer and some steaks”
I doubt there was one, given ICE’s recent behaviour, but did they give even the slightest reason why her student visa has been revoked? She was a fulbright scholar PhD student. Not exactly the supposedly “dangerous” immigrant the nazis always invent.
Maple MAGA didn’t go anywhere, but they got a very harsh slap in the face when most Canadians “woke up” to politics. They were doing that thing American Conservatives do where they pretend that everyone secretly agrees with them and they are the “silent majority”.
That’s easier to do when most Canadians don’t vote, don’t follow politics and are generally checked out, as it has been for years.
But then, basically overnight, Canadians across the country all engaged. Boycotts, firearms training, tracking the news on a daily basis. Funny what a little thing like threats to our sovereignty will do. And Maple MAGA didn’t suddenly change their tune. They’re still out there, loving Trump, consuming Russian propaganda and thinking Canada is a fascist regime because we have the gall to fund social programs. But they’re a lot less loud when they realize they’re the minority in every room. Essentially, they’re cowards and traitors and both those groups tend to keep their head down when a nation gets a surge of patriotism.
It’s honestly a little reassuring to here that the reason for these tariffs is “We want to tax the ever-loving shit out of our citizens so we can give money to billionaires, but we don’t want to call it a tax.”
At least that means that it wasn’t meant to be an act of betrayal and pre-text to war with Canada. I mean, it still was an act of betrayal creating massive hardship and permanently damaging our relationship. But the idea of a Russian/Ukraine remake happening along the 49th parallel seems less likely than it did.
I believe the way it worked was - the middle and lower class tax cuts had a built-in sunset and the upper class tax cuts were permanent. That way it looked like everyone got a cut, but really it was just a temporary relief for the poors and a real transfer of wealth to the upper echelons.
I don’t believe they’re engaging in such pageantry this time. But I’m not an American, maybe someone will correct me.
I’ve been posting this in a couple places - but it’s not Vietnam, right? It’s Ireland and the Troubles. Only - on a scale that makes the Troubles look like a block party. And I say that aware that the Troubles was a decades long conflict that piled bodies sky-fucking-high and never truly healed. It wasn’t solved by a U2 song.
I think you can do more with civil disobedience in your own country than you can by picking up a rifle for us. Unless half your damn country shows up willing to fight and die for us, we’ll never have enough bodies to do anything but resist occupation and make guerilla strikes. Think less Vietnam and more The Troubles.
But America traditionally does very poorly in war without strong support at home. When Americans lose a war, it’s never about guns and bombs, but always about domestic support falling through. And that’ll be even more true under your newly minted fascist regime. The fascist lives and dies on the widely spread lie of its own heroic, masculine ideal. Undercutting that hurts the fascist regime pretty severely.
I don’t know a lot about America. I’ve only visited maybe a half dozen of your cities and maybe been on American soil maybe 10 times in my whole life. I’ll tell you what I do know, please feel free to correct me if I make a mistake:
I know you don’t have universal healthcare. I know you don’t have a specific carve out against hate speech or calls for genocide in your first amendment. I know you have no limit on money in politics. I know you have 2 year election cycles instead of laws that prevent campaigning for more than 12 weeks before an election. I know you have school shootings. I know you have laws restricting abortion. I know you don’t legally recognize the existence of Trans people, never mind their rights. I know we had legal gay marriage on the books 10 years before you did, and the way things are going we’ll have it another 10 years after you overturn Obergefell. I know your banking system sucks, putting profits before people, and couldn’t protect you from the 2008 crash as well as ours did because we have actual regulation. I know you don’t have the same environmental protections. I know you want people to assimilate and “become” American in a melting pot instead of honoring everyone’s right to embrace their history like our mosaic.
And I know you don’t allow your conquered territories like Puerto Rico and Guam to vote, so who gives a shit how liberal we are?
I like America, and Americans, fine. But you were right there, a short drive away if I wanted to live like you. I don’t. Why is it not a big deal that that choice might be taken from me? (edited this last line to not jump the gun. Not like fighting has started and the whole point of this was to show I wasn’t overreacting)
I’m Canadian, I don’t have the luxury of treating it like a lie. If we’re wrong, and he means it, I lose my home and my way of life. I have to treat it as a serious threat. I have to try and make sure my nation is ready for the worst outcome imaginable - a fight where we can’t win, we won’t surrender and where everything I’ve ever been taught tells me to die for my country.
Old age, bomb or bullet - one way or the other, I’m dying a Canadian.
And most of those war crimes were in an overseas war where we just trying to impress the European powers so they’d stop treating us like the kid brother. Can you imagine how many disgusting atrocities we’d commit protecting our own soil? Plus, we look and sound pretty indistinguishable from a lot of Americans. A Canada/America war would make the Troubles look like a fucking block party. The only winner is Russia. The only result, bodies piled high.
Hello Lemmy.ca,
Super new here, but super happy to find this exists. I hope it grows and keeps gaining in popularity despite the clunky nature which I think is inherent to the Fediverse (am I saying that right?).
My story is probably like a lot of people here. Reddit was my only actual social media account. Never did the Twitter/Facebook/Instagram, whatever else. Reddit was how I got my news and I was fine with that.
But back in January when this whole Tariff thing was first winding up, I decided to go hard and start my American boycott. I cancelled Netflix and Disney+ (I haven’t missed them for one second, which makes me wonder why I was paying for them anyway), I cancelled my Xbox Gamepass. I was already boycotting all things Amazon and Wal-mart. You get the idea. Reddit though, it didn’t feel like a betrayal - r/onguardforthee was my Canadian politics news source of choice and I wasn’t giving them any money.
But it occurs to me, when engagement numbers is how these guys convince investors to prop them up with no sustainable business model - I sort of was doing some damage. So, I set off looking for an alternative and here I am.
We have so little power to influence things these days it can feel pointless to make changes. Changes to our social media site of choice. Changes to our buying habits. How much does it really add up? But my father taught me, and I bet yours did too, you don’t do the right thing because it guarantees the right outcome. You do it so you can look in the mirror at the end of the day. Thanks for helping me look in the mirror.
That story is absolutely heart-breaking. It’s funny to me that reading that story, I can just tell I wouldn’t like Jasmine Mooney. We wouldn’t get along on a personal level. Her humour isn’t my kind. Her view of things doesn’t line up with how I perceive the world. We wouldn’t be friends. And yet, I’m so incredibly moved by her story and I really respect the humility she shows in highlighting the stories of the other women she met in that system. I’m going to share this around, this feels really important.