• umbraroze@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    (Webmail provider releases a bespoke desktop app)
    (me, old fart, bumbles out from behind the cables and servers and muck)

    You fools! Have any of you whippersnappers ever heard of IMAP? No? Thought so.

    [I’m not that familiar with ProtonMail. Chances are they already support IMAP. In which case: … …why? Why this? Why in this day and age?]

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      It’s worse than you thought.

      The webmail provider released a dedicated browser that can only open the webmail and called it a “desktop” app.

      Additionally, they don’t support IMAP. There’s an app to run on your computer that becomes a bridge. The proprietary protocol is translated to IMAP. You can’t use your favorite client if your operating system can’t run that bridge and you’re not a premium user because for “reasons” only premium users can run that local bridge

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        they don’t support IMAP

        They don’t support IMAP because they want emails to remain end-to-end encrypted, and IMAP doesn’t have any way of doing that. The gateway decrypts the emails locally, then serves them as plain text.

        We need something better than IMAP, that’s designed for modern use cases. Something that’s not stateful… Maybe a web service or something like that. JMAP seems promising but barely any providers have implemented it.

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          Still, if an user prefers the convenience of using any client instead of e2e, could enable it in a setting. Maybe the user subscribed because they liked the interface and the overall features of the plan, and not because of the encrypted email solution and just wants to add the account on the mobile client instead of a dedicated app

          Being closed like this IMHO is just to increase user retention

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            E2E is their flagship feature and pretty much only selling point. I’m really not surprised they don’t allow to just disable it.

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        On a lighter note, the protocol might be proprietary but the bridge still seems to be fully open source : https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-bridge

        I don’t think think Proton shows bad will on this one. The only alternative I can think of (as a non expert) would be IMAP + GPG encrypted emails but very few desktop clients support GPG, which would make them less accessible 🤷‍♂️ Having their own protocol also probably makes it much much easier for them to iterate on it, opening up usually makes think much robust but also slower.