• kameecoding@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    man if you want to be sarcastic about communism you have to at least understand what communism is.

    also need to learn about the concept of state capitalism

    We do not think there was a struggle between capitalism and com- munism across the twentieth century. For us, communism never ended in that century because it never arose there. Our conclusion is built on the fact that communism – if understood as a distinct, non-capitalist class structure – was neither a significant, nor a sustained part of the history of any of the nations conventionally labeled communist. Using the USSR and the PRC as exemplars, we argue first in this chapter, and then in a subsequent chapter, that those nations actually displayed cap- italist and feudal, not communist, class structures.

    We do not doubt the sincere Marxist consciousness and anti- capitalist commitment of the revolutionaries who inaugurated the USSR and the PRC. However, notwithstanding their battles to estab- lish and defend socialism and to move toward communism, they could not and did not install communist class structures as the prevailing social organization of production in either country. Instead, they estab- lished particular state forms of capitalism (USSR and PRC) and state forms of feudalism (PRC) as means to improve their nations’ economic and military strength and their citizens’ standards of living.

    Thus, by the second half of the twentieth century, the dominant conflicts occurred among (1) mostly private capitalisms (the US, Western Europe, Japan, etc.), (2) a state capitalism in the USSR and Eastern Europe, and (3) first a state feudalism and then a state capitalism in the PRC

    https://brill.com/display/book/edcoll/9789004194748/Bej.9789004194458.i-234_003.xml