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How long did this take you wtf
The Navy meanwhile had a Shinji and Kaworu cosplayer making out with each other. Know your audience
It’s not gay if it’s underway!
What’s gay to civilians is brotherhood in the Army. What’s gay to the Army is brotherhood in the Navy. What’s gay to the Navy is illegal.
Wow that’s horrible. Where was this, exactly, and is it a regular occurrence?
So you can avoid it, right? Because it’s so horrible? Where exactly so you can stay far away.
Yes precisely. It’s very important that I never witness such depravity.
Yoshikazu Yasuhiko, one of the creative minds behind the original Gundam series felt the need to create the Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin manga because too many kids thought the War is Hell story to be War is Cool and felt the need to make it more clear.
Also, stack copyright infringement on top of the other crimes by the US military. Pretty sure Anno and the rest of Gainax wouldn’t be happy about this.
There a a saying that it’s impossible to make an anti-war movie, because they always end up glorifying war.
It’s actually quite easy. Just focus on the victims rather than the killers. Come and see, Grave of the Fireflies, Catch-22, All quiet on the Western Front, …
I’ve only watched Grave of the fireflies once. Can’t bring myself to watch it again.
Fun fact: that debuted as a double feature with My Neighbor Totoro.
Damn, that’s… oof. yikes. I hope Totoro was the first movie in that double feature.
Although, note to self if I ever open a drive-in movie place…
All Dogs Go To Heaven and Pet Semetary.
Babe and Vasa De Noces.
Fantastic Mr Fox and Antichrist.
Wall-E and Irreversible is a stretch.
So maybe Pinball Wizard and The Accused.
Band of Brothers is also a good one. War movies are so often the “moment of heroism” or tragedy, but in reality, it’s not a moment. It’s months, years on end of always being on full alert, where one false step one time is enough to die.
Bump for Come and See. I believe it’s a government sponsored Belarusian anti-war film and it’s pure horror. Watch that if you believe all war films glorify war.
Also Gundam: War in the Pocket. Great miniseries that zooms way into a small conflict to really focus on how war effects everyone.
Schindler’s List…
You just need to embrace the glorifying war aspect like how Starship Troopers does it, and just be so ridiculously over the top that it’s blatantly obvious how over the top it is.
I mean, there’s a lot of people who really misread starship troopers.
Yea, there’s a reason it’s a cult classic. Everyone thought it was support of fascism and glorifying violence when it was released
It’s a great example of media literacy, and specifically - thesis, antithesis, and synthesis.
The first reading is, holy shit, is Doogie Horrible wearing an SS uniform? This is fascist propaganda.
The second reading is, ah, everything goes terribly and nobody learns anything. This is an anti-fascist satire.
The third reading is… how are you different from these characters? What do you know, that they don’t, that would stop you from wanting to know more? This is a movie about how fascism happens.
blatantly obvious how over the top it is.
I don’t know how to break it to you, but Paul Verhoven’s satire pieces (e.g. Starship Troopers, Robocop) are a little too good. Far too many people miss the point, even today, with the entire film spoiled and then some.
It would probably be easier if you didn’t use soldiers as your main characters.
I went to an airshow a few years ago and the F22 raptor demo team was doing their show, which was amazing and the recruiter was working his pitch into the show the whole time. Between the talking points they would play music and the one that stood out the most was BYOB by System of a Down, which is a complete and total 180 to what they were pitching. It was incredible the cognitive disconnect.
Or the people setting up the show knew exactly what they were doing but their leadership didn’t catch it
As a member of the Air Force, I propose a middle ground. They just liked the music or associated it with badassery. They probably didn’t think too hard about it.
The actual name of the song is BYOB (Bring Your Own Bombs)
Somebody knew
LMAO you got me there
If right wingers can like Rage against the Machine and be surprised they are not right wing or apolitical, NGE is way too subtle for them.
If you believed that fish story, I’ve a bridge you may be interested in.
What exactly is a fish story? US military being in comic and anime cons?
US soldiers trying to recruit young people posing with a character from NGE blissfully unaware of the irony involved?
Cool, now do a furry convention! (Great way to find IT for military systems!)
Unless they go undercover to research cat girls with military funds.
You are not immune to propaganda
I’m sorry, is their slogan actually “It’s your time”?
Like when death appears and tells you it’s your time? It’s like they are recruiting for the losing team…
I don’t think that’s a valid criticism, I don’t see death saying that, it’d be more like “Your time has come” - to contrast it further, wouldn’t somebody say “It’s your time to shine”?
It’s your time to serve democracy*!
*Democracy being whoever is paying politicians to keep some war or another going for great profits
Become a citizen of the Federation. Would you like to know more?
the greater gooood…
Become a hero! Become a legend! Become a helldiver!
I have the sudden urge to go and sign up to the US Army
Ymra eht nioj!
Military intelligence, two words combined that can’t make sense.
Military intelligence is basically just about knowing where the enemy is. The actual espionage and counter espionage stuff done by non military experts. It has to be this way because the military doesn’t exactly recruit for brains.
You’re having a conversation with song lyrics
Possibly I’ve seen too much
Possibly I’ve seen too much
All the military branches had giant booths at the last comic con I was at. It was very odd.
I’ve seen the LAN parties they have full of fembois. NonCredibleDefense has running jokes about armies of fembois, but it’s more real than I ever imagined.
I guess the enemy will be too confused to react once they see an army of fembois dressed as maids advancing. It works with the goddamn Maidman, after all
Well, you have to remember which kinds of high school the army sends recruiters to: all of them.
I don’t anime. What is she from?
Misato from Neon Genesis Evangelion
I’ve heard of it but not seen it. Thank you.
Just to clarify, Evangelion is basically saying ‘don’t guilt-trip teens into being soldiers, don’t put them under the power of horny adults (however well-meaning), don’t bully them or treat them like lab mice, and definitely don’t cut them off from civilian society and the chance to form normal human friendships’. Seems some people saw all of that and only remembered the cool mechas.
That’s pretty cool.
ok but how does it make you feel about war
Like I feel about most (if not all things): different levels of severe confusion
Just shut up and get in the fucking robot, Shinji
Shut up and get in the middle east shinji!
I came to the comments trying to figure out how it was related to the Torment Nexus. You’ve clarified it for me. Thank you for your help.
Evangelion doesn’t actually say any of that though…
It says heaven is free Fanta for everyone or something
Maybe you too will let a cigarette burn awkwardly.
…Or crank it over a coma patient, whatever Shinji, you do you ya little bitch.
Exactly. Instead we now have:
Get in the fucking Humvee Shinji.
Also
Seems some people saw all of that and only remembered the cool mechas.
I mean, I kind of get it. That whole genre is/was wall-to-wall spectacle. I suppose it’s possible to dazzle your audience a little too much and lose the plot in all the mayhem.
But it’s not limited to Mecha Anime. Take The Expanse, for instance. The plight and rebellion of The Belters is pretty much a pastiche a marginalized and developing societies that slave away for the benefit of other wealthy nations, today. And that arc is central to the plot of every season of the show, complete with a bloody rebellion and grave ramifications for those on top. But if you ask, I bet folks mostly recall a show about “protomolecule stuff” and “really cool space battles.”
The original show is a deconstruction of giant-robot anime, basically examining how every single trope would be horrible in real life. But it’s so goddamn stylish and well-done that a lot of people missed that it’s also an escapist fantasy that says ‘escapist fantasy is bad, actually.’ The ending is infamously abrupt. It’s like if The Two Towers ended in a lecture and there was no third book. It makes thematic sense, but the message is severely undercut by being a story people are invested in, for its own qualities.
The movies for that show are a long-form middle finger to the audience. It’s honestly impressive.
The reboot show is all of that in like four feature-length episodes, also incorporating decades of fan culture super not getting the point. The plot textually says, you are an asshole for wanting this remake.
Hideaki Anno is kind of a dick.
I’d still recommend it all.
Anno would be first to tell you: the con is full of fans who understood it less than the army.
Like an angel with merciless and cruel intent…
…hmm…
What’s with all the hot linked reddit posts lately?
I’ve been seeing a lot of people doing that.
Lack of content on lemmy so we go to reddit to find more. Linking to reddit images is easier than hosting them on lemmy by a few clicks and it let’s reddit bear the brunt of the server costs without getting any content, comments, engagement, or other data to mine for their trouble.
Should I not?
Now that you described the benefits of pirate CDN, I’m gonna do it more.
