• Giyuu@lemmygrad.ml
        3·
        1 year ago

        For reals…I never related to Narutos eternal optimism (which I’ve come to appreciate as an adult) but it was Sasukes loner, beat of his own drum attitude, and constantly changing character that still wins me over.

        And although I don’t follow Boruto closely, seeing just how awkward he can be as an adult just makes him even more relatable.

    • Nakaru@lemmygrad.ml
      3·
      1 year ago

      As I’ve matured and begun to appreciate his vision for anarchy, it makes me regret exclusively seeing him as an edgelord while I watched/read the series. Seeing him in Boruto has helped be better appreciate him, even though he’s a it of a shell of his former self in it.

      • digitalprometheus@lemmygrad.ml
        2·
        1 year ago

        If you have time, could you elaborate on your thoughts for his vision for anarchy? I haven’t watched in a couple years, and definitely just have young sasuke as am edgelord, would be cool to see another point of view.

        • Nakaru@lemmygrad.ml
          3·
          1 year ago
          I'm going to put this into spoilers for obvious reasons.

          Well so, after he learns that Konoha is the reason why his entire family was massacred and that there was no attempt to improve conditions for the Uchiha clan to avoid a coup d’état (if you read the Itachi light novels you learn that Danzo actively sabotages Shisui’s attempt to influence Fugaku into stopping the plan for the coup), he forms a band of anarchists based on who he got to meet through his time with Orochimaru and partner with the Akatsuki with plans of overthrowing the leaf village and all the ninja governments since he sees them as responsible for the conditions of ninjas who are oppressed. He holds onto this plan all the way to the end of Shippuden, resulting in the fight between him and Naruto, who wants to maintain the order of the shinobi world and simply reform it from the inside through improvements to leadership. By failing to overpower Naruto he recognizes he does not have enough power to achieve the change he wants to make so he settles to work alongside Naruto and bide his time. In Boruto, I get the impression he cautiously trains Boruto and shows him the values of anarchy to see if perhaps he can convince him as a mentor to pick up steam for a revolution.

          • digitalprometheus@lemmygrad.ml
            2·
            1 year ago

            Very interesting, thanks for that out. I only really remembered big “destroy the leaf village” energy which seemed to me to be a lot of civilian murder, but I definitely paid less attention to sasukes group than the other stuff going on. Gave up on boruto right around sasuke beginning to teach boruto, nice to hear that maybe something will happen there.

    • HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org
      3·
      1 year ago

      I always found Oda’s cavalcade of interesting villians the bigger draw.

      Yes, Luffy does some clever stuff, but it’s the classic main-character problem: you know the hero’s going to win so it’s just a matter of how.

      I was always fascinated by Arlong for the narrative of “how do power structures change when humans aren’t the dominant species”, and loved the back-reference where we find out Arlong Park was designed to mimic Sabaody Park, leading into the whole “society is stratified in a very broken way” story that reaches its peak absurdity with the Tennryubito.

      The relationship between CP9 and Spandam is perpetually comical.

      Even Axe-hand Morgan, for a throwaway villian to establish the main narrative model, he had an interesting character design, and then the Jango side-story that shows his cherished career is built on a lie is an amazing piece of exposition.

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
        1·
        1 year ago

        Luffy kinda suffers from the annoying MC syndrome literally all long seasonal anime i ever seen have (except D.Gray Man, and just look what they did to Allen ffs) - he’s too quirky. Actually most of other characters too, but the one we see the most have a time to get old on us.

  • MILFCortana@lemmygrad.ml
    5·
    1 year ago

    Luffy for being based. Team Rocket for their transness. Favorite despite everything is probably fucking Sailor Neptune or Sailor Moon. That show gets emotion more than almost anything else I’ve watched, legit all the dark magical girl shit made in response has nothing on Sailor Moon, which is way darker and handles emotions with more maturity.

    • digitalprometheus@lemmygrad.ml
      2·
      1 year ago

      If it makes you feel better, amongst my friends we usually let avatar slide for these discussions, it probably deserves it. Maybe we’re idiots, but at least we’re idiots together!

      • ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml
        2·
        1 year ago

        Lol I can agree with that. It isn’t anime and I can sorta recognize why, it has more of a Chinese influence than a Japanese one, it also is drawn slightly differently from full-on anime where the characters have faces shaped like a home plate from baseball(i don’t mean this as a criticism, I only say this because of the angle of the chin they draw lmao)

  • HaSch@lemmygrad.ml
    3·
    1 year ago

    Nonon Jakuzure from Kill la Kill, the source of all my power fantasies that pertain to active marching band membership