“I think what you’re reacting to is that, at the moment, Biden is an unpopular president seeking a second term while Trump is a popular figure inside his party who is winning primary races. I wouldn’t necessarily compare the two.”

Credit to @JoshuaHolland

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    Agree

    I actually don’t even agree that Biden is a “lesser evil” in the first place, I’ve talked about it

    But even accepting for a second the premise that there’s nothing to support about Biden, I like how to these guys the lesson of 2016 and Hilary Clinton is “let’s refuse to support the establishment candidate against someone who’s clearly worse, what harm could come of it?”

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        I very much believe – I’m being completely serious about this – that 4chan making good memes about Trump becoming president, because it really is just inherently a funny idea, had a lot to do with elevating him from 0 support to a little kernel of popularity that could start to grow into something.

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          Boomers don’t pay attention to 4Chan. It’s such a small segment of the population.

          Gen X and Millennials pay attention to South Park, though. They see that “douche vs. turd sandwich” bit and think “Hey, that applies to our situation now!” Then they stay home in protest, because they don’t like certain aspects of Hillary’s campaign and ideals, as opposed to hating every aspect that Trump does or represents.

          It’s not about picking the “lesser evil”. It’s about having realistic expectations and analyzing the situation as a whole. During the primaries, you pick the candidate you want. During the general election, you pick the party you want, even if your primary pick didn’t win. That’s it.

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      The harm is being caused by Biden and his hubris, and by the establishments inability to learn from their utter failure in 2016.

      Neo-liberalism is dead. If dems want to win elections they need to stop propping up these empty suits and stop acting as if they can squeeze blood from the “disillusioned republican former-maga” stone. It’s really that simple.

      Millenials and GenZ simply can’t be written off anymore. They’re not going to vote for your Biden’s and Hillary’s.

      Bidens failure is his own, not that of voters.