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…solves the low-wage problem by hiring kids who don’t know better.
Then we’ll just have to organise and unionise the kids too!
Or better yet, we should enact laws that protect children from the workforce. Maybe we can call them “child labor laws”
A preposterous idea! - conservatives, apparently.
You hate American and want [others] to have more [economy, Jesus’ love,reality shows]… you monsters
Ah yes. The famous quote from Jesus when he said, “thou shalt exploit thy workers for maximum profit without regard for the worker’s well-being.” in Rand 420:69
Or when Jesus said, “Thou must love thyself above thy neighbor.” in Freedman 6:66
Freedom is where you can send your kids to the mines.
Kids being able to form their own unions in schools have never been a bad idea - but for some reason nobody on the left has ever spoken about this (as far as I can tell.)
…solves the low-wage problem by hiring kids who don’t know better.
And they’re at work instead of school so they don’t learn better.
Well we all know the undereducated love voting republicunt against their own best interests
Wow did not realise that three of our states don’t have a minimum working age - NSW, Tasmania and South Australia.
that is so fucked up
Not as fucked up as it sounds. Federally, the minimum working age is 16 and parents are legally required to keep their kids in school until they’re 16. Most Aussies believe you need to be 14 and 9 months to get a job (beyond the family business), as that was an older minimum schooling requirement (decades ago).
Combined with the high quality of living, low poverty rate, high immigration (suppressing wages), and high minimum wage, this functionally meant that there was never any reason for the states to mandate a minimum working age — businesses didn’t seek to employ them.
Obviously now that capitalism has corrupted most governments and abandoned the social contract, we need to rethink all norms of modern society.
Eh, I agree with you on most of that except the high minimum wage bit.
The minimum wage for anybody 15 or under is 40% of the wage for anybody over 21. I believe that not all industries do have that provision in their award, but all entry level jobs do. I guess it’s a bit of a miracle that it doesn’t keep going down further than 15, because if it did, maccas would probably be run by 11 year olds making 10% of the 21+ wage.
But even besides that, our minimum wage isn’t really high compared to the cost of living, which is the metric that really matters. Our minimum wage compared to elsewheres cost of living is not a good comparison
Wait is this an Australian news story? I just assumed it was about somewhere here in the US
Oh we’ve been doing this shit too don’t worry
Is it similar to Texas but with kangaroos?
Or is Texas similar to Australia but with guns?
Same. On second glance, though, the site in the tweet is a .net.au.
Not a guarantee, but certainly ups the odds.
Nope, this is indeed from Australia. I assumed it would’ve been the US too tbh. But you can tell because our ABC (capitalised) has a different logo to your abc (lower case), and the domain ends in .au (the internet country code for Australia)
If it weren’t for the comment, I would haven’t just not noticed. I assumed the same. That’s fucked.
As someone who grew up in NSW it’s 14 and 9 months. Exceptions might exist for family businesses etc. but your 8-year-old can’t apply for a job at Woolies.
Apparently it used to be that, but now there is no limit: https://www.industrialrelations.nsw.gov.au/new-to-work/essential-information-for-people-new-to-work/new-to-work-faq/#:~:text=How old must I be,may apply relating to age.
Wait is this an Australian news story? I just assumed it was about somewhere here in the US
The children yearn for the jam factory
You can take the children out of the jam factory but you can’t take the jam factory out of the children
Unless they fall into the industrial equipment, then you absolutely cannot take the children out of the jam factory.
“Local child jammed into jam factory jam jams jam jammer.”
Edit: J’s are starting to look weird to me after staring at this too long.
That’s my jam.
Child poverty is a big issue but people seem to forget that work is the best thing again poverty /s
Really? I’m over here in Texas and we seem to have found a completely different solution to childhood poverty. And childhood…
Guns and building schools across the street from poorly regulated fertilizer factories.
Where you work, but you’re still poor?
Some people would rather be poor in a house than poor on the streets. This ain’t getting fixed in our lifetime make the best of your life you’re able to
Yes. Hence the little known technical term “again poverty” in that post.
In that case, it’s your fault. Source: it’s always your fault, never blame the system. Only lazy people blame the system.
Some facts to consider:
- This happened in New South Wales, in a very rural area. People are not going to commute out to this remote location for minimum wage.
- Kids volunteer on the weekends and parents sign off on it.
- Some of the kids like it because they don’t have anything else to do, they learn a job skill, and they make a little money.
That said, I don’t agree with it. Hire adults and do what everyone else does by having a “bring your child to work day/week” if you want to teach kids. Or make a field trip. Let’s not go backwards in society to benefit companies.
Kids volunteer on the weekends and parents sign off on it.
I grew up in a poor rural area, and we had a bunch of child labor due to agriculture exceptions.
Most of it wasn’t kids earning a “life skill” or pocket money. It was poor kids who had to work. And usually their parents worked there too.
And they only need to be 12 for it to be legal.
The families need the kids to work, but the kids working inflates the labor pool and keeps wages low.
If a kids like 16 and wants to pick up a part time job, cool.
But little kids shouldn’t be holding down jobs.
I made this exact argument yesterday on the shit hole formerly known as Reddit, and of course got nothing but backlash from angry neck beards who think everyone should be allowed to pull themselves up by their bootstraps at the age of 11.
“minimum wage” <- thars yer prooblem
“Well if we pay much more than that, it will dip into OUR profit! What are we supposed to do, just make less money?!”
Can’t spell “minimum wage” without “minimum age!”
They might commute if it was easy and cheaper than what they’re paid. You want workers, make it worth their while.
How many hours. If it’s 2 or less per week I’m fine with it.
Wow, i swear they’re about to write “jam factory help solve poverty by hiring child.”
Jam factory solves lack of red-coloured blobby ingredients being forced through high-speed machinery by hiring children.
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I see red hats and reflexively cringe.
???
This should make you feel a murderous rage, not cringe.
Oh come on, Fred Durst isn’t THAT bad
Agree to disagree
But fezzes are cool!
Fezzes are the sole exception, methinks. Iconic shape, could never be confused for a silly baseball cap.
As a 49ers fan I hate them just that little bit more for making red caps their thing.
Should this be cross posted to uplifting news? Seems about their speed.
Done, with some changes. https://mander.xyz/post/10393242
Update, they do not like it
Extra Update, they pulled it for not being “uplisfting” enough.
“admin Removed Post Great news for jam lovers! reason: Not uplisfting”
I do find it odd since they still have a lot of the same posts as here and orphan crushing machine.
Can we not bomb and raid other communities, pretty please?
I know the community is not perfect, but let’s not turn Lemmy into a warzone. We’re not on Reddit.
Just out of curiosity what do you define as raiding? I don’t know much about the term as I never posted on reddit.
Essentially making posts and comments with an intent malicious in relation to the goals of the community with a clear intent of mocking or bullying, as well as coordinating such actions at scale.
Raiding is very bad because it doesn’t actually serve to rectify the wrongs of the community or provoke deep thinking, but increases intolerance and hostility.
If you want Uplifting News to be actually uplifting, make your voice heard in the comment section on how short-sighted such approach is, and if somebody asks, direct them to the orphan crushing machine phenomenon. Also, post actually uplifting news - ones that would be seen as positive by absolute majority of the audience.
Essentially making posts and comments with an intent malicious in relation to the goals of the community with a clear intent of mocking or bullying
Thanks for the definition, however I never did the above and certainly nothing with malicious intent.
You went into a community meant for uplifting news in order to post news that are clearly not uplifting in order to mock the selection of uplifting news in the community.
This is not productive - and clearly malicious.
order to mock the selection of uplifting news in the community and clearly malicious.
It seems must live in my head to know what my intentions are, and I guess my malice? I have uploaded a few things to that community and this one is the first to get such push back. I guess the child jam workers was too much, but I assure you that your assumptions of my intentions on this are misplaced.
Also, orphancrushing orphancrushing@lemmy.world
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This is slavery
I imagine this was a field trip or something like that and it has been evolving to be more rage inducing since that picture was taken.
Reminds me of the story about a school field trip to a cotton farm and they got the kids to go out in the fields to pick cotton and at the end of the day they didn’t get to keep the cotton they picked, the farm kept it.
I’m also thinking this is the case, especially since the kid’s hat still has a tag on it. I imagine that would be a gift shop purchase.
He has to return it each shift otherwise they take it out of his paycheck.
I don’t think that is the price tag. It looks to be the tag on the hat with what materials it is made of and washing instructions.
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This sucks and should be illegal. This should fucking onion article not for real. But goddammit our government just shurgs tells us how great the economy is. Biden and Democrats should be ashamed that under their watch they sold out to billionaire class allowing this to happen.
Hell they don’t even call it out.
1- That’s in Australia
2- As far as the US goes, Republicans are responsible for eliminating child labor protection laws. Just look at Sarah Huckabee Sanders in Arkansas.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/08/politics/sarah-huckabee-sanders-arkansas-child-labor/index.html
Indiana is trying to make it legal for a 14 year old to drop out of school for a full time job…
😂😂😂😂
Fucking hell. Republicans are a god damn joke. They can’t let women be in charge of their own bodies and they can’t even allow kids to be kids. All that matters are the almighty capitalists.
…You do realize this was in Australia? But yes keep blaming the democrats if it makes you feel better
Thanks Obama, mate
What a c-
Actually, I can’t say that word. Y’all shouldn’t either, but unfortunately you’re not states yet so we can’t stop you.
I’m from Texas and I can say it!
What a charming dude!
What does Biden and Democrats (assuming from the US) have to do with an Australian company?
Article says it’s from an entirely different country….
As an Australian I am livid that Biden is simultaneously interfering too much and not enough in the work/life balance of Australian children
How could the non-existent Democrat party in Australia have allowed this to happen under their watch‽
As an American, I’m confused where Austra-lia is on a map. Must be in the middle east or maybe the Midwest…
shurgs
If a school kid wants to work and earn money, let it be. There is nothing wrong with that.
