• Alexstarfire@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Your anecdote isn’t very relevant here since you aren’t gay. All you’re saying is that you can be liberal without being gay or having other issues directly affect you.

      What they are asking is, if those issues do affect them, is that the reason they are liberal? An obvious answer is, if it matters to them more than other things then yes. I imagine personal identity and personal freedom matter very much for most people, but it may not be the highest on the list.

      Unsurprisingly, things aren’t black and white.

      It’s certainly weird to see people championing for things that will actively hurt them though. Like black people trying to join the KKK.

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      I’m trying to get you to see that the nature of the reasons are not what the selfishness was in reference to but rather their scope of caring. A hard right republican woman can think that she deserves to have an abortion herself but if she doesn’t care if that extends to others then she is selfish. If the percentage that mellow was talking about are only liberal because the issues listed impact them then that does kinda seem selfish. It is not a commentary at all about the rightness or wrongness of those issues.

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        9 months ago

        Trying to get me to see…?

        Then you should she stated your case and avoided trying to be clever by asking the same question twice in some bizarre effort at a philosophical take, to what…make yourself appear smarter? To a question you’ve already answered for yourself? Ridiculous.

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              9 months ago

              Keep dodging the point you know I’ve made. I’ll want to hear your answer if you ever give an on topic honest one.

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                Ah yes, insulting me as if my answer were dishonest otherwise? Listen to yourself trying to manipulate this situation as if you were somehow in the right. I would have had a conversation with you and you bothered to reiterate your point in good faith, but here we are wasting bandwidth with you somehow having to insist on “winning”…whatever that is here. Have fun man. I’ve run out of bytes to give.

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                  No, you wanted to be hostile from the start. And you still never actually answered the question. Dodging the point and the question is manipulation. Doing so repeatedly does seem dishonest.

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                    9 months ago

                    No.

                    You didn’t like my answer and furthermore refused to engage in a discussion. That’s all there is to it. I stopped giving a flying f about what you wanted to know as soon as it was apparent you were in this discussion for yourself. You want to be right, not engage in a discussion about what is right. Fuck off at this point.