The Black Mirror plot about AI that worries actors::As actors strike in Hollywood, unions say they want more protection from artificial intelligence.

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        nah, if we’re in any of the fictivev levels, then everyone should look TV good. Even the “ugly” ones should still look good.

        Unless… the people in reality are so ugly that we in fictive level 1 would look good in the eyes of reality…

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      I haven’t seen it yet nor do I plan to because fuck Netflix. What’s the plot of this episode that has everyone worried?

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        Your life is the script for a TV series. The actor looks almost identical to you. You do not get paid. You have no saying. Everyone in you life will distance themselves from you because they can see behind the curtain; who you really are.

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    Everything black mirror has covered has came true at some point or might will. This issue is also coming true. The writers and actors need to make sure they don’t get fucked over by the AI and the greedy corporations. All power to them.

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      Thanks for pointing this out, if this bot issue here isn’t fixed soon I can’t imagine users are going to stick around for very long. I know I won’t.

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        I don’t think that bots that post news articles are really an issue, as long as users aren’t allowed repost the same article multiple times. The articles are going to get posted eventually. Bots can be more efficient at quickly posting breaking news.

        My issue is more with bots that post comments pretending to be users; bots that steal content from other users; and bots that repost old content. These are the types of bots that negatively affect the user experience.

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        The OP bot isn’t the worst imo, it’s been very upfront about what it is, but there is a larger issue that bot detection isn’t that great on lemmy.

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    I thought the episode was so-so, especially compared to the two after it, but yeah it did age very well very quickly.

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      Agreed with it being so-so compared to the two after but also prior seasons and episodes of Black Mirror. This episode reminded me of an episode I watched of “Extrapolations” on Apple TV (the ep with Marion Cotillard) in that it was a great idea but the execution of it felt off.

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        Not really. It just felt a little too “out there” in my opinion compared to other Black Mirror episodes. I imagine those who didn’t like the Ashley Too/Miley Cyrus episode had similar complaints with Season 5 in general.

        It’s not the worst episode though. U.S.S. Callister takes that crown for me, there was a glaring plothole with the way the DNA transfer worked. How did the memories of the people whose DNA was collected transferred?

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          Dude they have tech that streams directly into their brains. Probably just made a cookie from a scan from one of their game button node things.

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            There was just something about the episode that didn’t grip me tbh, but it wasn’t because of it being closer to reality. I’m bad at articulating that sorta thing outside of music lmao.

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          Joan is Awful seemed like the most realistic to me of this season. A couple episodes this season were basically fantasy instead of sci-fi.

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            I actually thought the one after that about the murder documentary was more realistic. More on the drama side of things than a sci-fi but still very Black Mirror.

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    AI is coming after all of us.

    Why would actors get any better legal protection than other professionals?

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      Well, i think they can pretty reasonably argue that the companies can not take their body image «for free forever» like they are trying to do, it is just stealing at that point. If Disney wants to , say, take Harrison Ford body and make an Indiana Jones 6 with ‘‘him’’ (an animated rendering of his body), then they have to pay royalties, negotiate a contract, etc with the person, the same way any of them would do with their IPs. In general, everybody should have their body as their own IP really, by default and retroactively. With largely the same rules as the IPs of these mergacorporations, so they enter public domain after a while too ( i really want my AI-generated Buster Keaton short films … ) The actually analogous situation with us mortals getting replaced by AI, is if the Studios just straight up invent AI actors and actresses from the start and register them as their IP, and does not hire real life actors. So, an AI John Smith, that is just a program owned by Disney that their production uses in films (can we really call then films at this point ? for me everything will just be Animation henceforth). This is more probable in the long term, it even already exists in some subcultures, like some J-pop singers that are programs made by fans.

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        But would it be possible to make AI John Smith “from the start”?

        Every AI John Smith characteristic would be based in a real human - unless AI John Smith is a 100% alien lifeform. That applies not only to appearance, but mannerisms, voice, accent, etc.

        AI cannot create a 100% “original” human, because it will always be based on information based on real humans.

        The analogy is that any text or code “created” by AI is based on learning from texts and code that were written by humans.

        Unless Harisson Ford has rights on the “Indiana Jones” franchise, where would be the line for his legal claim? Could AI create a character to play his part that looked nothing like him, but still mimic the way he moved? And how close the resemblance to Harisson Ford could be? Who would judge that?

        What about James Bond? So many actors have played it, and there are gestures, sentences, behaviors which are part of the character, not of the actor. How would that be dealt with?

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    Which episode specifically is everyone referring to? I skimmed through the article but couldn’t find the name of the episode.

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        Oh okay. Didn’t know season 6 is out which had me a little confused how I never watched this episode.

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    Art imitates life … or maybe the other way around, depending on when this episode was written.

    How much of a trippy meta joke would it be if this episode was actually written by AI?