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0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned to linuxmemes@lemmy.world · 1 year ago

I find this to be most accurate with Debian

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I find this to be most accurate with Debian

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0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned to linuxmemes@lemmy.world · 1 year ago
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  • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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    Updates in Linux are far more tolerable. There’s really no reason to delay Debian stable, imo, unless you absolutely can’t risk some downtime.

    Server rats excepted, it’s just a process that goes in the background and at most, you have to reboot the kernel.

    There’s no staring at the Blue Screen of Boredom while windows update holds your machine hostage.

  • vampire@lemmy.world
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    Do you work for the North Korean government or something OP? Why discourage people from keeping their systems secure?

    • ☭ SaltyIceteaMaker ☭@iusearchlinux.fyi
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      What they are referring to is people just don’t update their server because during that time they wouldn’t be able to make a profit. This goes more to middle siszed businesses but happens rather often

      • sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works
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        Blows my mind, lol. Usually means no redundancy that allows one set to be done while the other set handles the traffic.

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          “Why should we pay for another server one works just fine, a second would just be waisted money.”

          Also

          “We need 9 9s of reliability or the company will fail.”

        • 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.comBannedOP
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          Yeah, it is quite common, I can confirm… well, at least around here it is.

          • someacnt_@lemmy.world
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            Just a hunch, but it feels like you are living in the same country as I.

            • 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.comBannedOP
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              Macedonia? 🤨

              • someacnt_@lemmy.world
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                Okay, maybe not… sorry

                • 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.comBannedOP
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                  Meeh, worth a shot 🤷. Shitty contries all over the place 🤷 😂.

      • vampire@lemmy.world
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        I was making a joke

        • nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de
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          Joke transfer unsuccessful. Server crashed. Time to update the joke server.

        • ☭ SaltyIceteaMaker ☭@iusearchlinux.fyi
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          Well seems like i missed this one

    • Batman@lemmy.world
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      Security is an art… the art of not giving a fuck about your data

      -Op, probably

  • sep@lemmy.world
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    I find this to be least acurate with debian… on other distros a patch may or may not install a new version of that package. that can bring changes to the behavior. On debian stable the security issues are backported. So you can patch and be sure that there is no changes to the behavior of the system. It is basically the reason all vm’s i manage are debian stable.
    It is also true they never crash. But that is expected of linux. It is the extreme reliabillity that is the debian killer feature for me.

  • Midnight Wolf@lemmy.world
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    Me with my ‘homelab’ nas:

    system (user-facing) package has an update? It’ll auto-update overnight

    dockerized service has feature updates? Let watchtower handle it with the weekly schedule

    dockerized service with security patch? yeah, let’s hit that this afternoon

    actual system update? EVERYTHING IS GOING OFFLINE -4 SECONDS AGO FOR THIS

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      The system is going down NOW.

      • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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        https://youtu.be/Z1TlbLfaJp8?si=nL9C6MqHUbWm0cy-

        The system is down

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  • MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world
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    Debian updates are not usually that big of a deal especially if you have HA configured

  • katy ✨
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    i’m pretty sure security updates are optional.

    • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
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      Just put a “these colors don’t run” text in the log in

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    Unatended-upgrades keeps all systems securly patched. But there is a need for a reboot for kernel updates now and then.

    • Agent641@lemmy.world
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      I remember when Linux fan boys would give Windows users shit for needing to restart for updates.

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        Linux does not need to reboot, if you use KLP.

        • Agent641@lemmy.world
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          I do not.

      • Richard@lemmy.world
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        Hi Microsoft Bootlicker 👋

      • The Menemen!@lemmy.world
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        That was 1st about the forced restarts (Linux always only told you that it is necessary, but let you decide when to do it) and 2nd about the commomness of it happening on Windows (restarts are necessary more often on Windows).

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    “Until you crash, no on cares will reboot you.”

  • Thrickles@lemm.ee
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    • until there’s a PCI audit.
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      I have two words for you, “compensating controls.”

      It’s like goddamn magic.

  • lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de
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    yes, im guilty of this. haven’t got time to update my server to v12

  • Dog@lemmy.world
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    Isn’t live patching a thing?

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    But Debian has security updates and you can set up unattended upgrades.

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    Meirl

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