Dunno about anyone else but personally: I don’t care because I can’t afford food each month. Worrying where your next meal comes from focusing your mind somewhat.
By design
What, Rockefeller’s plans coming to fruition?
This is absolutely not true, but true for the capital class.
People do care but they struggle to make change against the rich who do not care
I mean even a cursory bit of online research demonstrates that not only are the vast majority of people aware of man made climate change, they also consider it personally important and a government priorty: https://climatecommunication.yale.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/international-public-opinion-climate-change-2023-appendix.pdf
We’re way past the point of no return if you factor in economics and societal pressure.
Fucking egghead scientists, what have they ever done for us?
Well other than making the computer I’m typing on right now. And warning us about the ozone layer before we all got skin cancer. And the sanitation, we were all getting cholera before we knew about separating the poop water from the drinking water. And the airplanes, and trains, and…
But other than all of those things, what have the egghead scientist done for us? Why should we believe them?
When your headline is that every week for the past 20 years it gets desensitizing, yeah.
Stupid take. The headline was true and the call to action happened. But then people went back to doing stupid shit and using chemicals again. You might be too young to remember the ozone hole and how it healed and now it’s getting worse again.
But oh no! Headlines continue to come as they get ignored and things get worse and worse.
Ozone hole is still a ‘W’!
While it increased in size last year that was in response to weather conditions that change year to year. Granted some of that may be in response to Global Warming, so that sucks.
Just like with Global Warming, any changes take place over decades or centuries. In this case the reduction in HFC emissions won’t get the atmosphere back to 1980 levels until 2040. At least we should see this success in our lifetimes: I hope some of y’all see a similar win for global warming, but it’s well beyond average life expectancy for me
The truth is that “western” countries will be “fine”. They have the money to build walls(for the rising sea and immigrants), cool and heat all the houses, buy/grow food, infinite energy. The cost of living will increase, the quality of life might decrease but nothing directly societal threatening.
Climate change will mostly affect poorer countries, that are already struggling to survive. Those countries cant really afford to do anything. And people in those countries will have to decide between dying or migrating. So the only “issue” for the “West” is the mass migration that will be caused by climate change.
Emmm…no? Climate change doesn’t mean only the rising sea level and heat, it also mean extreme weather pattern, which include but not limited to cat6 or even worst hurricane, extremely heavy rain, stronger blizzard, and the expanding cold snap, all of which can directly hit all western country.
They can affect a western country but these are not societal threatening issues, not in the same way climate change is for poorer countries.
Every country in the world is going to be affected by climate change. Extreme weather causing growing seasons to change or destroying entire crops will be a common occurrence. Where do you think “the west” will be buying food from if no one can produce it?
You guys are both right. He is downplaying the affect of climate change. It’s not just going to be “some reduction in the standard of living”. You are wrong in thinking there will be no food.
Some crops may not be available year-round, for any price. Right now you can get tropical fruit any month in colder climates. This may go away for many months of the year. Maybe shipping is disrupted by larger storms, so goods take longer to arrive.
Basically it may be like during the pandemic when transportation shut down, and you couldn’t get some goods at any price. That’s more than a “reduction in standard of living”.
I don’t think “the West” will get off so easily once temperatures in Europe drop by several degrees due to the collapsing Gulf stream.
Europe will be like Canada. Even a wild Canada climate isnt that big of an issue. Worst case scenario, we can build giant glass domes, like in scifi.
The West has options and “solutions”. Most countries dont.
Call me apathetic, but since I literally can’t do anything but vote (and even that seems pointless). The only thing left to keep me sane is think “at least I live in a rich country”. I’m not proud of it, but there’s a great chance that me and mine will suffer drastically less than poorer folks and that’s sort of reassuring.
The US is indeed in a very good position, having only two borders and two oceans between everyone else. They just need to get Mexico to mine their southern border, while they mine theirs.
But Europe, Russia, China, India have plenty of them and won’t be able to escape refuge streams or conflicts. Large parts of India might become uninhabitable. Food prices are going to fluctuate. Global trade will become unstable or collapse, disabling the complex globalized industrial economy. Nuclear war is very likely. People still don’t know what’s coming.
We’re already suffering from devastating storms and droughts. At least the country where I’m from.
It’ll happen one day… maybe…
Biden be like: “Get back into your cars and drive to the office federal workers! We’ve got billionaires to save!”
You’re gonna care when bread goes past a fiver a loaf.
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