• guajojo@lemmy.world
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      For water only and 3 days in a row yes, but fasting once a week is harmless and has benefits

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          Genuine question: why?
          I mean I can imagine that it’s heavy stress for the body but I’m surprised you’re sure of death.

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                That’s not how any of that works: Insulin tells fat cells to leech sugar out of the blood and convert it into fat. Type 1 diabetes means you can’t produce insulin (it’s an autoimmune disorder attacking the cells producing it), type 2 means that your fat cells have seen so much insulin that they dial down their response to it, to the point where you cannot produce enough to regulate your blood sugar.

                In any case taking insulin while fasting will only make you keel over faster as you’ll deplete the little sugar that’s left in your blood, and also actively hinder the reverse (fat to sugar) pipeline.

                Diabetics can fast and type 2 can even be reversed like that but you absolutely need a doctor to take regular blood tests. Type 1s don’t want to they’re happy if they get at least a bit of body fat onto them.

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                  I’m type 1 and you can have all of my fat. Isn’t ot harder to lose weight with diabetes? Why would it be harder to put on fat?

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                    Type 1 diabetics can’t put on fat without insulin injections. I already explained why, if you don’t believe me open any random textbook on metabolism.

                    As Type 1 diabetic to lose weight all you need to do is stop insulin and live your life, sooner or later all the fat will be gone: Under normal circumstances we’re always burning a little, regaining a little, as Type 1s can’t gain without injections you’d only lose.

                    On the flipside doctors will try to make sure that Type 1s do have enough fat on them to survive for a while, mortality rate before insulin was discovered was insanely high: Eat something and lose consciousness because your blood sugar is too high, don’t eat enough and you’ll starve sooner than later, hard to strike a balance there without any help from modern medicine.

                    As Type 2 it’s not really harder to lose weight than as a non-diabetic, thing is though people who become type 2s generally have lifestyle (and/or other) issues that brought them there in the first place. Correlation, not causation.

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              That’s not true bro. You can manage your basal rate and not eat for a week. Trust me. Type 1. Almost three decades. There’s been two points in my life where I couldn’t hold down water, and had to be intubated after a few days.

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      A non-underweight and otherwise healthy adult can forego food for a week without issue, it’s not that big a deal. We would never have survived evolution if we couldn’t do that.

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        It’s exactly why we store energy as fat in the first place, so when the getting is good it prepares us for when it isn’t.

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        surviving and healthy are two different things.

        It puts stress on your body. Not a problem for most people, but can still put people in danger if preexisting conditions exist

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          Exercise puts stress on your body. Not a problem for most people, but can still put people in danger if preexisting conditions exist.

          The thing about stress is that complete lack of it is a stress all of its own. Aside from psychological stress, that is, that one is wholly superfluous.