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      It’s magical thinking. They believe they found a legal loophole that means they’re obeying the law, because they don’t actually need things like license plates or a drivers license.

      For example, they commonly believe that the law actually defines “driving” as a commercial activity, as in “to drive a herd of cattle”. So they insist that they aren’t “driving a motor vehicle”, they’re just “traveling in their conveyance”.

      It’s why the poster made a point of saying they were privately traveling.

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    Just the idea that you can force yourself onto another countries road and tell them you don’t need a license/etc is so narcissistic it’s crazy lol.

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      They don’t understand that private means use on private property.

      Like, it doesn’t have to be licensed, I assume, if you have an old truck you use to get around on the farm or ranch or whatever.

      Which makes a certain amount of sense.

      But the moment you’re on the public roads, you can’t be driving a private vehicle, that’s not how any of this works.

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        This is correct. Lots of farms have children drive trucks around, and places like resorts often have shuttle drivers without CDLs drive their busses, which they could not do on public roads

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          Depending on the weight of the vehicle and whether or not they have air brakes, you don’t need a CDL. You can rent a 26ft box truck from U-Haul that is almost certainly bigger than most resort buses without a CDL. Even if you’ve only ever driven smart cars before that

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            Even if you’d normally need a CDL you might not need one on private property. Lots of manufacturing sites have “yard hostlers” that are not road legal and do not require a CDL to operate (in the US).

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    Imagine hating government so much that you dedicate your life to making your own whole government by way of amateur arts and crafts

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      Sounds like a lot of work. Easier just to order all of the arts and crafts needed for your own government from the internet.

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    Maybe the cop was a sovereign citizen too, what makes you so sure he has a constitution to uphold?

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    What’s the origin of this “traveling doesn’t require a license” thing? Usually the sovereign citizens end up grossly misinterpreting some real statute or law. “Traveling” seems to show up consistently. I’m just curious where it came from.

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      They call it the natural right to travel, I think it comes from maritime law which they base a lot of their nonsense on.

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        Also the U.C.C. Sovcits fuckin love the U.C.C. If I had a nickel for every time of them says they’re not engaging in commerce so they’re not required to have a license, I’d be Jeff Bezos.

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        I’m imagining a scenario where the driver gets one ticket and becomes irate. The police officer decides to issue another and the cycle continues until the driver shuts up.

  • DAE have an idea, what the 9 violations might be?

    I am not from the US, but i would assume sth. like operating an unregistered vehicle, driving w.o. licencse and maybe one violation he got pulled over for in the first place.

    What could the other six violations be?

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    Because a private individual will have the resources to take on a police department. As though they wouldn’t defend their officer. How much money do you have for this case? It’s definitely not going to be enough. But I’d love to see it play out.

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    I wonder why they are obsessed with all things vehicle. I am pretty sure they could make a big show out of not doing jury duty or not answering the complete census without much happening to them.