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According to the poll, conducted using Ipsos’ Knowledge Panel, 86% of Americans think Biden, 81, is too old to serve another term as president. That figure includes 59% of Americans who think both he and former President Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner, are too old and 27% who think only Biden is too old.

Sixty-two percent of Americans think Trump, who is 77, is too old to serve as president. There is a large difference in how partisans view their respective nominees – 73% of Democrats think Biden is too old to serve but only 35% of Republicans think Trump is too old to serve. Ninety-one percent of independents think Biden is too old to serve, and 71% say the same about Trump.

Concerns about both candidates’ ages have increased since September when an ABC News/Washington Post poll found that 74% of Americans thought Biden – the oldest commander in chief in U.S. history – was too old to serve another term as president, and 49% said the same about Trump.

Archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20240214133801/https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/poll-americans-on-biden-age/story?id=107126589

Part that drew my eye,

The poll also comes days after the Senate failed to advance a bipartisan foreign aid bill with major new border provisions.

Americans find there is blame to go around on Congress’ failure to pass legislation intended to decrease the number of illegal crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border – with about the same number blaming the Republicans in Congress (53%), the Democrats (51%) and Biden (49%). Fewer, 39%, blame Trump.

More Americans trust that Trump would do a better job of handling immigration and the situation at the border than Biden – 44%-26% – according to the poll.

So that bipartisan border bill stunt was terrible policy, and it doesn’t seem to have done anything for the Democratic party politically

Can we please stop trying to compromise with fascists now?

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    59% of Americans should have been paying attention a year ago when something could have been done about it.

    What thing? The Democrats basically didn’t have a primary. All the potential internal rivals to Biden bowed out.

    The Republicans had a conga-line of sacrificial lambs. I even saw a few spicy Op-Eds suggesting that a true anti-Trump Democrat should be actively campaigning for Ron DeSantis or Nikki Haley. But… Trump’s a fucking hog. He’s got every AM radio and Evangelical Church repping him. What were “59% of Americans” who’d been otherwise alienated from the political process supposed to do? Build an entirely new party from first principles and put… idfk… Mark Zuckerberg or Elon Musk on the top?

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      What were “59% of Americans” who’d been otherwise alienated from the political process supposed to do? Build an entirely new party from first principles and put… idfk… Mark Zuckerberg or Elon Musk on the top?

      Jesus is that the 59% you think are alienated?

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      If the parties had been pushed hard enough for other options, they would have followed suit. The fact of the matter is that Trump and Biden beat everyone in the primaries. Biden won a primary where he wasn’t even on the ballot. Nikki Haley lost a ballot to "none of the above. The majority got the candidates they want. We are the minority.

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        If the parties had been pushed hard enough for other options

        The parties were pushed. The problem is that the party leadership pushed back. And since they had all the money and the organized manpower and the influential media figures, they won.

        It’s too little too late now.

        Which is why Biden’s cruising for a bruising in November. His team made an executive decision to square off against Trump a second time, because the Dem Party assumed “ancient white male fossil” = “safe bet”. They had all the cards, so they got their way. And now they’re stuck with the weak hand they’ve chosen to play.

        Biden won a primary where he wasn’t even on the ballot.

        Biden won an unofficial NH contest in which his well-funded and professional GOTV team managed a better write-in campaign than a couple of nobodies.

        The majority got the candidates they want.

        95% of the primary vote hasn’t even happened and every other candidate besides Nikki Haley has suspended their campaigns.

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          The parties were pushed.

          Not hard enough or by enough people.

          team managed a better write-in campaign than a couple of nobodies.

          A couple of nobodies is all that stepped up which is why Biden has to stay on. No better option stepped up.

          every other candidate besides Nikki Haley has suspended their campaigns.

          Because they lost every primary so far.

          Saying we need better options is hindsight at this point. The time to push new candidates was more than a year ago, not once the primaries have already started.