Fifth of men aged 16-29 look favourably on social media influencer Andrew Tate

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      Feminism in the 70s, 80s and 90s was women trying to be heard and taken seriously.

      Forced quotas are because nothing changed and the rise of fuckheads like Tate is directly related. Too many men think that feminism is a zero sum game. i.e Women getting more rights means men are losing rights. Despite the fact that all they want is EQUAL rights.

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        It’s because they know deep down that their lifestyle is built on the backs of women and minorities instead of on their own effort.

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        Despite the fact that all they want is EQUAL rights.

        And that’s the lie. Try to tell those “equal rights and quotas” people the same should apply to men in jobs heavily dominated by women and a sizeable and very loud part of them will explode in your face screaming and slavering because you dared to even mention the idea of equality.

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          Tbh, I’d think men would self exclude from these jobs because they’re afraid they will look less masculine working them.

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            These jobs do not pay well, so they already struggle to find anyone to work those.

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          Jobs heavily dominated by women are not well-paying jobs, so no one cares. Are there even countries that have quota for women outside of executive positions and politics?

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        To be fair, men will lose privileges. Before they had to compete only with other men for that juicy executive position. Now they also face women, lowering their chance to get the job. That’s just one example and it is absolutely necessary for this to happen.

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      “Woke” means anything anyone wants it to mean at the time, so any claim you make about wokeism is devoid of importance, just any claim I make about it is. You could claim wokeism is responsible for colony collapse disorder in bees and I wouldn’t be able to argue with you, it’s an effectively meaningless word.

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      Please define what the fuck “wokeism” is. Feminism isn’t stupid either, it’s necessary and has never stopped being necessary.

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        So what’s wrong with what i’m saying? Feminism is stupid? Well, you should read up on the history of feminism and especially the fourth wave, that basically is nothing else but neoliberalism in it’s worst form. Everything before 2010 basically.

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          I’m not clear on whether you’re saying that all feminism is stupid (obviously wrong), feminism has already accomplished its goal and is no longer necessary (another laughable type of wrong), that modern feminism has some sort of revolutionary obligation with regard to capital (silly as fuck and wrong), or that feminism must stay the same or inherently betray its founding principles (OK, which wave was OK with you? How far back do you think women should go? Wrong, wrong wrong.). Which type of wrong are you?

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            Neither. I’m saying the actual wave of feminism is not helping the cause, because the issues feminism first set out to combat actually still exist. The issue i have is with overboarding “correctness” and everyone feeling butt hurt when they hear something they don’t like. You don’t agree with my point? Fine, that’s absolutely okay. But verbally lynching me for not agree with my point (even if my point may be factually wrong) is hurting the cause, because it alienates those people even further and basically cements their view of you. But things are not stopping at verbal, because lot’s of “feminists”/“activists” resort to physical stuff…destroying property, destroying lives, etc. Feminists up until the fourth wave protested, they fought rightfully for their rights to be equal and except in some edge cases, they won.

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              Wishes feminists would protest in a more palatable way, preferably one they never hear about or are inconvenienced by
              Those NASTY FEMINISTS are DESTROYING LIVES
              Compares being told they are wrong to literally being executed by a racist mob

              Yes, obviously people are going to make fun of you, you keep saying ludicrous shit, lol

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              But verbally lynching me for not agree with my point (even if my point may be factually wrong) is hurting the cause

              Cuz you should be the center of attention and everyone must tone police themselvs around you to make it all about your comfort.

              Keep lecturing other people about feeling ‘butthurt’ while you melt away you precious snowflake.

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      ‘Forced quotas’

      Look at you talk like men we’re never handed anything and absolutely 100% qualified for their jobs this whole time. Now everyone gets handed a chance to fuck it all up without consequence and be mediocre. And this is where you’re drawing the line. HhhMmmk.