Palestinian officials are accusing Israeli forces of carrying out “execution-style” killings in Gaza after the discovery of a mass grave containing at least 30 decomposing bodies. Some of the victims were blindfolded with their hands tied behind their backs with zip ties. The bodies were found on the grounds of a school in Beit Lahia. Al Jazeera spoke to one man who helped discover the bodies. Palestinian man: “Inside the schoolyard, we were shocked to find the dead bodies. Those are Palestinian civilians, blindfolded and handcuffed at the back. The dead bodies were kept inside black plastic bags.” The discovery of the mass grave comes as the death toll in Gaza has topped 27,000. At least another 66,000 have been injured. The group Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor is now estimating that more than 25,000 Palestinian children have lost one or both parents in Gaza over the past four months.

More video and eyewitness info on Al Jazeera so far

Also reported on Common Dreams and Middle East Eye.

I haven’t found any reports of any independent investigations yet, hopefully they are underway

  • WaxedWookie@lemmy.worldEnglish
    88·
    11 months ago

    A question for the genocide deniers that’ll pop into this thread to spout their monstrous nonsense…

    Can you point to a way in which the actions, policies, or rhetoric of the Israeli government meaningfully differs from those of Novemberpogrome-era (Krystalnacht-era) Nazi Germany?

    This isn’t pointed at any individual, so I’m not even putting you on the spot - this is an opportunity for you to bring your best answers.

    • okamiueru@lemmy.worldEnglish
      49·
      11 months ago

      Can you point to a way in which the actions, policies, or rhetoric of the Israeli government meaningfully differs from those of Novemberpogrome-era (Krystalnacht-era) Nazi Germany?

      They spoke German.

    • InfiniteGlitch@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      40·
      11 months ago

      I have realized a while ago that there’s no point in arguing or discussing with genocide-deniers, pro-Israel and pro-zionists.

      They will write the most delusional things, deny every evidence there’s and come up with the most delusional things to defend the Israeli-Government.

      • WaxedWookie@lemmy.worldEnglish
        19·
        11 months ago

        I think they’re delusional enough that there’s value in giving them the space to lay that delusion out for all to see. They’re one of the best arguments against themselves.

      • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        11 months ago

        It’s all the work of Schrodinger’s terrorist sniper. He’s killed every Palestinian!

    • kromem@lemmy.worldEnglish
      27·
      11 months ago

      If you are asking for a devil’s advocate argument, we could start with the fact that the Jews weren’t exactly known for detaining, torturing, and mass executing their own.

      Hamas in 2014 allegedly tortured and killed 23 Palestinians under the cover of the Gaza conflict then by Amnesty.

      That’s not the only time they’ve executed Palestinians for alleged “collaboration.”

      You also have the fact that the Jews didn’t torture and kill hundreds of German civilians including women and infants to kick off a retaliation.

      While I think Likud show a disguising disregard for civilian life and suspect a number of their party would like to carry out a one sided genocide, I also think the “it’s the same thing as the Holocaust” is a pretty gross statement.

      It’s also probably prudent to not jump to conclusions in what’s actually taking place during the fog of war. I strongly suspect Israel is committing war crimes under the current administration, but I also remember the 2008 Goldstone report where they were accused of doing so after not participating in the process at all and then years later the person spearheading that inquiry said that had they known at the time the information they learned since, they would have had a different position towards the Israeli operations.

      Time has a way of revealing a lot of details that are lost in the moment, there’s probably unprecedented propaganda on both sides of this conflict, and while we should err on the side of humanitarian concerns in directing foreign policy and negotiations, the process of investigating allegations is extremely important.

      But to be frank, the knee jerk “this is identical to Nazi Germany killing the Jews” is ignorant as shit. You can’t just ignore the existence of Hamas and the fact it controls the region with its own war crimes (which, as has been the case for ISIS/ISIL and al-Queda, are often directed at their own dissidents with greater scope and violence than foreigners).

          • hydroxide@lemmy.mlEnglish
            9·
            11 months ago

            Are you suggesting Palestinians are trying to eradicate all Jews when they are undergoing an actual genocide from Israel?

            It’s almost like both the Warsaw and Gaza uprisings were a reaction to occupation and murder.

        • kromem@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          11 months ago

          Maybe I missed it in your link, but where’s the part about the Jews murdering women and children, such as burning infants alive?

          Looking at the casualties, it seems their very limited relative body count were soldiers and police, often killed in action.

          Or did you miss that specification in what I wrote?

          • hydroxide@lemmy.mlEnglish
            8·
            11 months ago

            Seems like 70 years is a long time to keep a group of people under a crushing grip of apartheid. Perhaps Palestinians watching their family members bulldozed, tortured, bombed, strapped to tanks would evoke something in people?

            Also are you seriously talking about the AI infant propaganda that the White House had to walk back on after no evidence was presented? Why not play devils advocate for the people that have now lost over 11K children?

            • kromem@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              11 months ago

              Also are you seriously talking about the AI infant propaganda that the White House had to walk back on after no evidence was presented?

              You seem to be confusing the specific report of beheaded infants for which there was no presented evidence with the well documented reports of infants killed and burned.

              There’s no dispute that infants were killed. Just whether their heads were removed from their bodies by a sharp object before they died.

              Also, what the hell does it have to do with AI? You sound delusional adding that in.

    • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      11 months ago

      With how often we spar, I feel it’s worth mentioning that I fully agree with you here. There’s enough substantial evidence. This is horrific.

      Between this and the IDF disguising itself as civilians and doctors to kill targets in a hospital, it’s fairly clear that the organization needs to completely disband as part of any peace agreement.

  • Stamets@lemmy.worldEnglish
    62·
    11 months ago

    The country genociding people have to make mass graves from executing civilians? Say it ain’t so.

  • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.worldEnglish
    43·
    11 months ago

    When people try to tell you conservatives (including neoliberals) aren’t that bad, just point to this genocide.

    • platypus_plumba@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      11 months ago

      We’re just innocent men.

      Governments need to take action. This is what we pay them to do. The problem is that daddy USA picked sides and everyone is too afraid to damage their relations with them.

      At least Biden is starting to use his push back of Israel as his campaign strategy. "No Israel, stop, don’t do it… do they like me now? OK good. Israel, proceed. "

  • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
    34·
    11 months ago

    A lot of this really mirroring the Bosnian genocide which was only 25 years ago

    • Keeponstalin@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      12·
      11 months ago

      This isn’t about Jewish people or the Jewish faith. This is about Zionism and settler colonialism

      • Mycatiskai@lemmy.caEnglish
        5·
        11 months ago

        Exactly, the issue isn’t thousands of years old. The Zionists started this shit in the late 1800s, when they realized they wanted a place for the Jewish people and decided on Palestine. They have been systematically destroying the Palestinian history and culture ever since. The latest destruction of schools and mosques is just another attempt to erase the past to make Palestinians look like they don’t belong there and should be absorbed into the neighboring Arab countries.

        Jews lived along side Arabs in Palestine and the other Arab countries. It was the Zionists deciding that they wanted a majority Jewish ethnostate and Arabs had to go to make it possible.

      • Jazzy VidaliaEnglish
        1·
        11 months ago

        The Torah is part of the Bible. The semantic is not necessary. Also even Jews use term Bible or Jewish Bible when speaking about it too sometimes, including well-respected Jewish theologians.

        Most people know the Bible–or rather the Old Testament–is the Tanakh, usually with a reordering of scrolls.

    • Keeponstalin@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      19·
      11 months ago

      Get this antisemitic bullshit out of here. The state of Israel doesn’t even represent all Israelis, and not remotely all Jewish people. There have been prominent Jewish people that have been anti-zionist all the way back since the 1920s to present day

    • General_Shenanigans@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      11 months ago

      You see a genocide, chastise the people committing it, then go on to fully support some OTHER genocide as not being good enough, because of the genocide? In a single post you’ve demonstrated that you’re no better than any of the groups of people you’re referring to within it. That’s some real batshit drivel there, my fellow human. You should get that checked out.