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    Haley might be the smartest person in the GOP room right now. She got herself a gig in the Trump administration, but one that kept her in NYC and away from most of the crazies in the Trump Orbit. She had to promote Trump’s foreign policy, of course, but had wide latitude in terms of how to do it. She notably had a hard line against Russia while we know Trump’s history with Putin.

    She was capable of doing her job without stepping in anything foul. And she got some one-on-one time with other high-level diplomats. If there is any dirt on Trump and his foreign business dealings, she has it.

    Haley might make a horrible President, but she is not an election denier and she is not in Putin’s pocket, so she already has a few advantages over most of the GOPniks these days.

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      If there is any dirt on Trump and his foreign business dealings, she has it.

      Which is probably why Trump is implying that he has scandalous information about her.

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      If I had to wager, her plan may be to stay in to the end despite losing every primary, just in case something goes south for Trump legally. Trouble is, he’s going to savage her politically and many of his supporters will never vote for her

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      It would be interesting to see Kamala Harris vs. Nikki Haley in a future election – Two Indian-American woman vying for the US presidency.

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      Not American, so honestly I’d prefer her to be the candidate even if she does beat Biden.

      Obviously Biden vs. Trump is more likely to result in a Biden win, but a Haley presidency is arguably preferable to even the risk of a second Trump presidency.

      If he’s re-elected and undermines NATO, the risk of Russia making a mistake in the baltics, and things getting out of control are very very real. Trump II is quite simply an existential threat at this point.

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        I suspect Trump v Biden would be a tighter race than expected. Trump supporters enthusiasticly show up to vote. The majority of Americans may prefer Biden over trump but will they make the effort to vote for a man they aren’t enthusiastic about?

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          My reasoning is that no one is particularly enthusiastic about Biden.

          People will however turn up to vote against Trump.

          Will people turn up to vote against Haley in as large numbers? I have my doubts.

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        Obviously Biden vs. Trump is more likely to result in a Biden win

        The sad thing is that we’re not sure. Trump voters don’t vote “rationally”, it’s a cult like thing that was cultivated during Biden’s term. They are taught to refute all facts and go by gut feeling instead.

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          Don’t think it started then. Fox News, Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, hell Father Charles Coughlin and the America First Committee. Suspect it’s partly related to that Asimov quote:

          “Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’”

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      Haley has a much stronger chance of winning the presidency than Trump imo. She could win the independent vote, and Democrat voters may not turn out as much if she’s the alternative.

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    This is smart. She’s probably just sitting and waiting for the Supreme Court ruling. By some rare chance that Supreme Court sides the Colorado ruling. Trump is immediately disqualified for running for President and she becomes the nominee by default

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      It isn’t quite that easy is it? Can’t they simply rule that CO has the right to run their elections how they see fit without weighing in specifically on whether Trump should be disqualified?

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        They have to walk a very fine line, because too far in either direction fucks them. Give the states too much power and they can kick off trump. Give the states too little power and Democrats can counterattack voter suppression

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        It’s not that simple. It sends a message to the entire nation. If it’s held up every voter is aware he is an inferior candidate. And if it doesn’t, the GOP can say “look how bad they are at it”.

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          That’s true, I just don’t see how they don’t uphold it. Then again, the GOP lives for hypocrisy and their chosen few run the court now so…

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    Trump’s long list of Achilles heel’s include rain, wind, 3degree ramps, bottled water and vocabulary.

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    Yes, like all the other narcissists, people (in particular women) not doing what he wants really upsets him. This is nothing new.

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      Not just women, but since she’s of Indian descent, I’m sure he thinks of her as “a woman of color”. I’m sure she gets under his skin almost as much as other “disrespectful, uppity, don’t know their place” women like Fani Willis and Letitia James, and I’m here for it!

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    Haley can sue for malicious intent and defamation of character, after a few weeks of Trump being infuriated.

    Now, we know how much it takes for Trump to shut his trap.

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      Given the polling she’s not going to win the primary… unless something unprecedented happens. Something that’s never happened in a primary before, like for example, the front-runner gets convicted of a crime during the campaign.

      Which I suspect is the reason she’s staying in.

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    Why would she drop out, she’s the leading eligible candidate.

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    I’m starting to think Trump said something personally to Haley that seriously pissed her off, because she must know she’s not going to win.

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      I assume she’s hoping to get the Republican nomination by default if Trump is disqualified.

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        This would be my dream (as a non-American).

        I want to see if the deep red Republicans hate Democrats enough to vote for a woman, born to Indian immigrant parents just out of spite.

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      At this point she can only win. Winning the nomination and the election this year is a long shot, that’s certainly true. But whether Trump wins the election by whatever means and inevitably drops dead at some point or he wins the nomination but loses the election, she’s in place as his obvious successor.

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        It is extremely unlikely that Haley can pull a comeback and win the nomination the conventional way. But there is a non-zero chance that Trump will not be able to accept the nomination, because he may be ineligible/incarcerated/deceased. If that happens, the Republican convention will be a shitshow. (It might turn out to be the real Civil War II if next week is a dud). However, Haley would be going in with a position of strength as the only other candidate with delegates.

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          There is nothing stopping incarcerated people from running for president, it has been done before. That probably helps to make it less enticing for corrupt politicians and their allies to lock up their opponents on false charges. Unless Trump dies within the next ten months or loses the support of his fanatic base, which both seem unlikely, Trump will be the Republican nominee. Haley might try for VP or try to carry her momentum into 2028.

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      because she must know she’s not going to win.

      Winning isn’t important. It’s the free money. Colbert showed years ago how PAC money could be transformed into a personal slush fund.

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      Might be early preparation for a 2028 run. She’ll be a familiar face who was “strong enough to go toe to toe with Trump” or something. I dunno much about political calculus.

      Plus yeah, this might also be payback to get him tilted.

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      That is sort of happening minus the Dem part. She’s got the Koch money machine behind her. Which is disgusting and should make clear she’s controllable.

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        I would laugh out loud to see her goad Donnie into a heart attack live on stage.

        But I wouldn’t vote for her in a million years.

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            My partner and I were just talking about going to vote for her if she makes to it our states primaries.

            My state has open primaries so I can vote in either parties primary. I’d never actually support either of them but tactically, it might be smarter for me to go support Haley (vote against Trump). My state went for Trump by almost 15 points in 2020, Biden isn’t going to win here. But if Haley can get to the general, I’m 90% sure Trump runs as an independent and splits the GOP vote.

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            Well yes of course.

            I get the feeling she might be playing up to the base but would dial that shit right back in office.