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    I honestly don’t understand how people saw this slop and all just threw their wallets at it. The only way I can cope with this beating fucking Counter Strike is that it’s “Adult Pokemon” premise was too interesting to pass up. I can’t imagine it’ll be like this in a month or several. As an outsider this is beyond bizarre to watch. Maybe PETA got to me but it turns my stomach watching people gleefully butcher and enslave Pokemon.

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        Yep! Clearly I’m in the minority thinking it’s distasteful to take innocent, bright, goofy looking creatures that resemble the childhood characters most of us grew up with and literally fucking slaughtering them with a butcher knife for soup. I’d rather shoot unnamed terrorist #32 in his terrorizing face. Correct.

        If the game wasn’t also low effort slop that’s borderline an asset flip with how many designs they’ve stolen, I’d probably tolerate it more but I’m awestruck so many people are eating this trash up and celebrating it.

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          I really hope you’ve taken a breather inbetween your internet raging to realize the “violent” aspects of this game are completely optional. It’s tastefully done, and absolutely no different than killing Minecraft cows for food. Are you a vegetarian when you play Minecraft?

          If the game wasn’t also low effort slop that’s borderline an asset flip with how many designs they’ve stolen, I’d probably tolerate it more but I’m awestruck so many people are eating this trash up and celebrating it.

          If you’re going to parrot stuff you heard off Twitter, the least you can do is verify it for yourself first. The designs aren’t stolen. Did they steal 3D models? No. Are they shamelessly similar? Yes. But that’s allowed, and it’s been a staple of the gaming industry for 30 years. We literally call other genres of shamelessly similar games by the games they copy. Soulslikes. Roguelikes. Metroidvanias.

          You clearly haven’t tried this game. It’s not “slop,” it’s high effort, there is a ton of attention to detail, and the success it has gotten is absolutely earned. I’ve never seen an indie game get so much right.

          It beat Baldur’s Gate 3 on Steam. It has more players than the 2023 Game of the Year.

          Steam is filled with trash low effort games, yes. But are you really so full of yourself that you think Palworld would sell this well if it were just another shovelware title? If it were “slop?” Grow up, please.

          And let’s not forget the franchise you’re defending. THIS is slop:

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            Are you a vegetarian when you play Minecraft?

            Not taking position, but for example Dead Cells offers a diet option, where you can choose the type of “food” (healing collectibles) you find scattered across the levels. I find that it’s an interesting and fun option to offer players.

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            Are you a vegetarian when you play Minecraft

            Forget Minecraft, are they vegetarian? It would be peak hypocrisy to be so concerned about how people treat pixel animals and not care how real life animals are treated.

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            “low effort” lol Not to mention they made an entire game to prepare for palworld…

            I’m 100% convinced craftopia was a testbed for the mechanics they wanted in palworld lol

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            Oh the premise is the same but the difference is I can’t go stab my Pikachu, cut it up, then turn it into soup because I got bored. Pokemon still has kid gloves on it to where nobody dies, injuries are superficial, and everything gets better with a visit to a special building. Palworld shatters that and goes “Hey, fellow psychopaths, you can now enslave and butcher all those friendly creatures you grew up with!” like all of us were just fucking drooling at the chance to murder cute animals. Clearly I’m the weird one because I never grew up thinking the Pokemon should be killable.

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            This brings up a weird idea. Are there like regular animals in Pokémon, or is everything non human a Pokémon? Like I feel like they have eaten meat or things that would presumably have meat in it a number of times, are those all Pokémon?

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      The uniformed virtue signaling is strong with this one…

      All of the “butchering” is optional. Believe me, the game makes it much easier to set up a berry patch that auto-feeds everything in your base, rather than manually butchering everything.

      And… Normal Pokemon is enslaving as well. You’re literally catching them and forcing them to fight each other to the brink of death. Just to recycle the rhetoric of the crazies 20-25 years ago. It’s akin to dog fighting. You’re also a child in Pokemon…

      Come on, at least try to make a good argument.

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      Maybe PETA got to me but it turns my stomach watching people gleefully butcher and enslave Pokemon.

      So you gleefully play terrorism stimulator the game?

      I’m anti-war and anti-guns, I play a lot of war games and shooters. It’s a game.

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        You really don’t see how “killing bad guys doing bad things” is a lot easier to stomach than walking up to a Miltank eating grass and blowing it’s head off with a shotgun?

        There’s a way you do violence with cute characters and it’s fucking called Pokemon. It’s called Slime Rancher. I don’t know who the fuck asked for Happy Tree Friends: The Game but congrats, you got it.

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          You really don’t see how “killing bad guys doing bad things” is a lot easier to stomach than walking up to a Miltank eating grass and blowing it’s head off with a shotgun?

          Unless you’re on the terrorist team, sneaking up on an agent doing his job and blowing his head off with a shotgun.

          You’ve drawn a weird line in the sand here: shooting semi-realistic looking people with a gun and seeing their blood splatter? That’s fine. Shooting a cartoon with a gun until it falls over? THE HORROR!

          Are you up in arms over Zelda? Mario? There’s no blood or dismemberment, they just fall to the ground. “Unconscious” if that helps you release the death grip from your pearls.

          You clearly have no idea how the game actually behaves and have invented something you can be upset about. There are lots of videos of gameplay, please find me an example of the violence you find unacceptable.

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            Yeah you really can’t seem to gather the difference between shooting dudes in military gear and squishy, colorful, harmless creatures. The fact you can’t connect those two things with the last remaining brain cell you have left is enough for me to not want to continue this back and forth. Zelda doesn’t have a Meat Cleaver you can take to your companions. Mario doesn’t let you enslave the fucking Goombas.

            You are beyond dense and I’m happy for you that you can cognitively disassociate from casually murdering what is essentially cats and dogs. Companions. If you’re the kind of freak that gets off on killing their pets, do you, but I don’t remember the part in Ark or really any game that gives you benefits for killing your buddies.

            Maybe Nintendo will free you from the slop, little pig.

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              Are we talking about different games here? You’ve made it clear you have no idea what your talking about. If I’m wrong please show me a clip of what it is you have an issue with, because you’re just making shit up.

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                Just think it’s kinda fucked up to want to kill Pokemon after growing up with them. Think it’s kinda fucked up to go “Man I wish I could shoot a Bellsprout in the face.” No pearl clutching, just really don’t get it whatsoever.

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      Do people riding horses gross you out too, or relying on dogs to find injured people in accidents? Animals have had jobs with people throughout history.

      Do you not fight wolves, attack dogs, dragons, and other animals on any other game you’ve played?

      You don’t have to butcher your pals. There is no in game need for it. You have pals, you pet them and feed them and provide for their needs and they help you cut a tree down. Sometimes they don’t feel like it and they just don’t do it. What’s the problem?

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      Yeah imagine still playing counterstrike on the same 3 maps and guns for 20 years and spend 1000 dollars on a cool knife.

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          I typically associate a circlejerk as a bunch of people who really like something not being open to outside critique and I’ll keep it a buck that’s exactly what I’ve experienced from the Palworld crowd.

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              Calling it slop is shorthand for the critique, friend. I’m sure you’re familiar with the term?

              The game is a basic, watered down, cheap, imitation of something better. In this case, Pokemon and Ark. The developers had a small budget, have a history of ripping off other games, and is succeeding only off the novelty of the concept “Pokemon with guns” and “Adult Pokemon with slavery!”. There is no depth, no substance, it’s a sandbox they cobbled together and all of you lined up for your yummy slop and now defend it because god forbid you take a step back from the group circlejerk to analyze what it is you’re beating it to.

              You’ll have post nut clarity in a couple months. Once you all get your fill a new game will take it’s place. Among Us, Valheim, Fall Guys, PUBG, H1Z1, Fuck even Lethal Company which I’d consider pretty damn good. They’re games that have massive surges but ultimately fall off. No staying power. They’re not a Fallout: New Vegas with memes almost everyone can relate with (some exceptions with Among Us). They’re not Counter Strike that keep people logging in and have a highly competitive community. They’re not Warframe that develop their game in cool new ways to bring old players back. They’re not Elden Ring with a story rich world hand crafted with quiet whispers of deeper lore scattered around. They’re definitely not Baldur’s Gate 3 with some of the most unique companions and interactions that have created memories which will last for years to come.

              It’s slop. A flash in the pan. Tasteless grool to tide you over until the next bowl, then the next, until someone makes another good game worth remembering. Worth talking about.