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Linux is a useless hassle for most computer users.
I’d go a step further. Desktop computing as a whole is overkill for most users.
As much as I’m loathe to admit it, my cheap Asus Chromebook is likely more than what 90 percent of humanity requires. And most of them could easily just get away with using a phone or tablet instead.
I’m an old school guy. I love a good tower with a pair of monitors and stuff to do my editing and 3D design. But even those intensive tasks are getting better on smaller form factors.
It’s just not my world anymore. I’ve aged out of it.
I feel all of that. Currently driving an Intel NUC i5, and that’s all I need. Hardly anyone on my block owns a PC, and if they do, it’s ancient and won’t be replaced.
This. You only need more than a Chromebook if you’re doing programming, game dev, doing 3D modelling, professional photo or video editing, AI/ML work or music production.
I wanna disagree with this so bad but I’m willing to bet 90% of the business done on desktops could be done in a web browser without much problem. Though I imagine a lot of proprietary software that keeps businesses going benefits from having a desktop. Not that it couldn’t be retooled.
Why would you say something so brave, yet so controversial?
I could argue the same thing about Windows 11.
Can you imagine an average person going into best buy and buying a laptop, maybe in S mode, forced to make a Microsoft account and wait 5-8 minutes updating their machine before they can use it, just for Microsoft edge to pop up asking them to change their accent color. Or downloading a program online and a big old popup comes up saying “Available in the Microsoft Store!”
I personally argue Linux Mint is awesome and what’s best for most people. my grandma (81) didnt want to switch to 10 or 11 after Windows 7 was going to be EOL, she tried mint and she absolutely loved it.
For me it’s com to a point that drivers are better on Linux. Linux is still missing drivers for a lot of devices but the ones we do have work seamlessly compared to windows
To add to this. Most complaints about windows from linux users are just people who don’t know how to use windows, which is kinda embarrassing considering its the most used OS by a really big margin.
Do you have any examples? I dont think I have seen complaints about Windows that are invalid if you knew how to use it.
I have another example from a few months ago where a guy was complaining that he couldn’t uninstall Edge without doing a bunch of registry tweaks and unofficial things to remove it, and that was why he switched to Linux. When the Chrome version of Edge came out though, there’s literally a setup.exe that you can run with an uninstall arg and it will uninstall it no questions asked.
The uninstall button. The game is great and all that, but god it is hard to fully remove all the junk it leaves behind on your system. /s
https://lemmy.world/lemmy.world/comment/6845923
A few posts down from yours. It’s literally the same on windows if installing the windows store/xbox version.
You use linux because you think it’s objectively better. I use linux because I like doing nifty shit. We are not the same.
I’m a fairly savvy computer user and its always looked like a hassle to me. Maybe I’m just lazy and dont want to put the effort into learning it, but MS practices with windows lately are really pushing me into finally doing it.
The hassle is the price of having more control over what’s happening inside your computer. Some people don’t want to care about that, and for those people, Absolutely it’s too much of a hassle.
I think the controversial opinion isn’t whether or not Linux is more hassle than Windows or Mac (it is…of course it is), but whether or not that hassle is worth it. Does the extra control over your computer outweigh the few extra things you need to do to keep it running right.
For me, the answer is yes. I don’t find having to be a little extra careful about some precautions before hitting the update button a huge inconvenience, or working through the occasional glitch when an AUR package upgrades past its dependencies.
But would that be too much hassle for someone like my mother, for example, who literally just wants to play games on Facebook? Of course. And there’s nothing wrong with thinking that.
Makes sense. Thats about where I’m at. The hassle is worth not having AI sifting through all my personal files and logging every fucking thing I do
Maybe one day you just buy another SSD and give it a try on there… Thats how I did it 2 years ago and I couldnt have guessed how much it would eventually, over time, become worth it to me.
I initially installed PopOS but it worked so well that after 2 weeks I though to myself, “well this is boring, I installed it and now what?” and proceeded to try Arch (unsuccesfully at the time).
As an avid arch linux user… Yeah, but I still love it
Ah, yes - the typical “I don’t like it/it’s too much of a hassle for me therefore it is useless for everybody.”
Same thinking pattern that prevents the USA from adopting the metric system: I like the old system (because I grew up with it and don’t want to learn something new) therefore the new system is bad.
These people should really try to be a bit less egocentric. Is it so hard to recognize that the world doesn’t revolve around you?
Dude one of my guys got a ticket yesterday where someone couldn’t figure out how to turn on their monitor and they’re in their 30s.
Android and ios is easier to use compared to both Linux and windows
Actual direct conspiracy is usually not necessary to achieve the outcomes of most nefarious things people worry about. Two rich people which both want to protect their own wealth can look at each other and their respective actions and then take next steps working to protect their wealth without ever talking to each other and get basically the same outcomes as if they had coordinated. Shared interests and a reasonable understanding of the likely outcomes of choices can be almost as good as direct conspiracy.
It’s not collusion, it’s game theory. So you can’t arrest me.
I get beat up every time I post something like this. Almost every nasty thing we see in the world is a simple case of an individual or group working towards their own best interests.
But why then do people do shitty things that they have to know will hurt someone? It’s not that they’re evil, they just don’t care if you’re not in their Monkeysphere.
Can’t think of anything I’ve read that puts this together so well. Yeah, I know, cracked.com. Give it a spin, it really changed my thinking about the world. (It’s old so the formatting in kinda hosed up.)
https://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monkeysphere.html
I read the article. It was entertaining, and there’s definitely a lot of truth in what they write, but I found the whole thing to be, very ironically, over simplified. I think what bothers me the most is the author assumes/implies that human empathy does not extend beyond our line of sight. As if it’s impossible for me to be considerate towards people I don’t know. Which is complete bullshit. Their arguments seem to assume that a general sense of morality does not exist amongst people.
I, personally, believe that most people are good and value being good. Certainly there are plenty that do not, but I believe they are the minorty. Fortunately my gripes with the article don’t really discount the main point being made, it just suggests that things aren’t as simple as the author tried to make it seem.
Very good point.
Remind me of a bit about the oligarchy of various families in early Rome. Even when the families disagreed with each other they never let is spill out into the lower classes. Why ruin a perfect thing?.. then gracchis
That’s why you need regulations: the market doesn’t regulate itself.
I’ll bite: most people don’t give a fuck about the fediverse and the hassle of having to understand it all in order to navigate it is only a barrier to entry that will slowly drive away people until the platforms die a slow, painful death.
Everyone on here saying they like it this way and prefer it over the mess that is Reddit or X are completely missing the point that negative growth will only lead to a failed platform.
The fediverse tries to solve a problem that doesn’t exist for everyone, while promoting itself as the solution to everyone’s problem.
You’re right, most people don’t give a fuck about it, and many of the attitudes on Lemmy aren’t shared by the vast majority of people. That’s not necessarily a problem, but it is if you think that Lemmy is going to suddenly overtake Reddit.
The Fediverse tries to solve a problem that doesn’t exist for everyone
I beg to differ. Twitter and Reddit CEOs having meltdowns affect more or less everybody who uses those platforms, don’t they? Learning how the Fediverse works is a small price to pay for a guarantee that their platform will never disappear out from under them again.
Twitter and Reddit CEOs having meltdowns affect more or less everybody who uses those platforms, don’t they?
Not really. On many popular subs, most users seemed to be pissed off that mods were closing due to API calls blocking third-party apps. As for Twitter, those that just ignore Musk’s antics probably haven’t noticed a significant difference.
Learning how the Fediverse works is a small price to pay for a guarantee that their platform will never disappear out from under them again.
Many of these people have had accounts on these sites for over a decade, which is probably the longest account they’ve ever had outside of email. Nothing has changed for them.
Even if it did, people want to go where others are. No fediverse product has anywhere near enough people to make the switch worth it for anything outside of niche topics. Hell, even Threads is a bit empty for the average person, and most see it as a billionaire retaliation to Musk.
So yeah, a manufactured problem for the few.
Why will growth be negative? At worst it will be zero. Once people get over the initial hurdle of figuring out how federation works they don’t tend to leave. We’ll have slower growth than non federated platforms because of it, sure, but we aren’t going to lose users.
We are losing users.
Where I have (mostly) found myself freed of political extremists and bots on lemme, they’ve been replaced by relentlessly hubristic tech pedants who can find fault with anything I can think of to say.
So it’s gone from infuriating to endlessly aggravating. I guess that’s an improvement?
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Marketing should be banned.
Its sole purpose is to get people to buy shit they do not need, in order to make someone more money than they deserve. All through manipulation of your brain.
It’s the sole reason we are over consuming.
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Consumers would just search for those kinds of products themselves if they encounter a problem they feel the need to improve. They don’t need to be told those products exist.
This is objectively not true. Not everyone has every idea to solve every problem. Sometimes someone fixes a problem you didn’t know you had. Happens all the time in hobbying for example.
In a platonic world, marketing is for getting word out to the community of a product or service. For example - “I suddenly need a back doctor and don’t know any”, or - “I wish there was some place in town that had organic shallots and asparagus and watercress, locally-sourced honey”.
In the real world, the tool is used and abused beyond the breaking point; before we even realized how we got there, we were bombarded by insurance ads from all sides simultaneously. Political ads. Male enlargement pills. Online casinos. Pharmaceuticals, with the fast-talking asshole at the end warning about “suicidal thoughts” and “serious risk of stroke” that comes along with their shit product.
The platonic ideal of marketing is always there. There is a flow of useful information. Unfortunately, it’s buried and intertwined with a flood of noise and excrement.
Not as hot a take as you might think. It can’t happen of course, at least not under our current economic structure
💯 on point here. Everyone knows it and doesn’t understand why.
https://bettermarketing.pub/the-great-marketing-deregulation-2125a0efe094
not all Christians are assholes who touch kids. a lot of (not saying all) the atheists here are absolutely wild
A lotta internet atheists seem to care more about hating the specific flavor of Christianity they grew up under and didn’t like than the concept of religion in general, but they view those two things as one and the same.
They cry foul at (admittedly, abhorrent) outlier behavior and use that as a generalization against a globe of different religious practices without knowing how they affect the day to day lives of various practitioners.
It seems to me they have a larger problem with vulgar hypocrisy and abuse of institutional power than the concept of theism in general.
Like the people hypothetically sentenced to work a restaurant service job so that they’re more empathetic to wait staff, I think many internet atheists would do well with a stint as a half-practicing Protestant who’s mostly in it for the potlucks or a Reform Jew who prefers to party most Fridays, but makes a point of showing up on High Holidays to catch up with acquaintances.
My favorite are the ones that treat science like religion, and don’t recognize the hypocrisy.
The phrase “treat science like religion” may be applicable to a few atheists but it’s also often exaggerated to discredit science’s position of authority.
There a lot of people who aren’t scientifically minded that treat scientific knowledge just like scripture. It comes from wize people and they just trust and accept it unquestioningly.
Those who practise science know that all knowledge is to be questioned, and everything needs evidence. They also know that everything we “know” is most likely wrong. It’s just the best explanation we have so far and that’s a good thing.
Science is not something you can believe in, it’s reality with evidence. It’s a method of finding evidence to explain reality, and when new evidence is found, the explanation, or understanding, is changed, not the reality. The scientific method has been developed, and changed, to try really hard to remove inherent bias. For reference, pick ANY science that you feel attracted to and dive in. Start in at the beginning, or middle, or with the most recent developments. The more evidence you evaluate for bias and truth, the more connections you make trying to grok it all, the more you’ll appreciate our best attempts to eak out fundamental truths that exist with or without your beliefs. I love science not because I believe in it, I love it because it reveals truth despite me. My favorite part now is that we are discovering that there are truths we can never know because of the physical limitations of our meat brains, so we’re building machine brains to explain it to us. Evidence showed that the universe was probably 13.8 billion years old, now James Webb is showing evidence that contradicts that. Square roots of negative numbers, imaginary numbers, in the 1500’s were thought to be useless, now we understand them enough to make cell phones communicate. You can’t BELIEVE in science, you can only use that CURRENT method to try and understand and then harness reality. Who knows, maybe one day science will discover the gods or god, or help us create them.
I see I found one of those people.
Take my upvote. It’s not much, but it’ll keep you warm.
I see you’ve missed the point
I don’t think it’s treating science as a religion, as it is treating their atheism as a religion.
internet atheists
I’m really into theological debate/discussion but I gotta admit, I cannot stand atheist communities online. I want to believe all the vitriol and seething is coming from kids who haven’t processed their religious trauma… But I get the feeling at least half of it is adults with nothing better to rail against
Militant Evangelical Atheists are the worst. Give me a good laid back agnostic any day.
“one AND the same”
This sounds like an asshole Christian kid touchers opinion of you ask me… 🤔
Maybe, but religious people are categorically idiots.
Easy now bronco, only top posts were supposed to be blindly incendiary.
this is just true. first time i saw the atheist memes community i thought “huh that seems interesting” then i looked at whats in there and “huh these people just hate cristianity and barely even give good reasons for it”
Internet atheism has just always been pretty bad. I enjoy a good joke about religion but some people take it to extremes.
when I first got on lemmy I literally never minded the atheist memes until awhile after. they started getting very extreme.
If you consider atheism to be a belief system in itself, online atheists are often a great way to dissuade people from lapsing away from organised religion.
I’m a very well domesticated atheist, tyvm!
E: Jfc, it’s just a joke…
Yeah I had to block the atheism and religion related subs bc they were cringe
They may not all be pedos, but a lot more are assholes who hate homosexuals and trans persons, or assholes who want to deny women their reproductive rights, or assholes who keep voting for far-right extremists. Just because a lot of Christians are “nice people” doesn’t mean that their ideology causes any less harm.
I must’ve grew up in a very different household then most American’s. Practicing religion with my family the Christian ideology shouldn’t be any of those things, it should be to spread peace and love, “love thy neighbor”.
Anyone who’s a far right extremist especially in 2024 I completely agree are all assholes, but I hope I can reiterate that “Trumps Christians” is its own religion and ideology entirely, and a lot of other people, especially those practicing religion in other countries, are actually those peace wanting love spreading people that Jesus was actually trying to spread to his followers, we are commanded not to judge others for we do not have the right to judge, but also not to condemn others for the same reason. Instead, we’re commanded to spread peace and love to all of God’s children. That’s at least what I’ve been taught in my church, my family, and by reading the bible myself. We do not agree with those ideologies (being a general dick head, being judgmental, harassing people, restricting woman’s rights, etc etc) and anyone who does may believe in Jesus but are not followers of him if thats their purpose in life. And it sucks ever since Trump we’ve all been categorized into that group and painted as the same thing, which is what makes me despise him even more.
It seriously hurts to see how many Church’s and Christians have become so unbelievably fucking evil in the states.
Copyright and intellectual property as a whole is actually bad for artists and authors and only serves the interests of large corporations.
You think that opinion is gonna cause you to be bombarded on Lemmy?
Well it got me bombarded on reddit.
The idea of
coffeecopyright is good, but corporate lobbying and the current most-money-wins legal system makes our implementation of copyright harmful. TL;DR: Interface good, implementation bad.I think even the interface is just intended as a band-aid fix for the current economic system (not gonna say the C word). In a better world art and media would be a public good.
But I do get your point. Could absolutely be improved for the current system.
No copyright need a nearly ideal system, where the people go to the original creator by themselves to get more content.
But in the current reality, without copyright big coperations would just take the stuff of indi creators and get bigger because the masses know them and stay by them.
While I agree that this is true currently, I do not believe that it necessarily must be. Life plus 70 years is some top-tier bullshit, and no one who isn’t a corporate bigwig will fight you on that. But 20 years from release date is not, especially if enforced equally on all creative works instead of just the ones made by artists who can afford corporate lawyers. Imagine if we had some way to protect against art theft or freebooting besides the honor system. Imagine if OpenAI actually had to pay artists to use their works to train Midjourney instead of just saying “it would be impossible to do this without massive amounts of copyright infringement, therefore you should just let us.”
You are not wrong.
we’re gonna let religious idiots and selfish fuckwits destroy the entire ecosystem because they’re too fucking stupid to understand simple science and too immature to realize they’re the fucking problem.
It’s not as simple as stupid group of people does bad things. There is a clear and powerful monetary motivation to harm the environment and the people responsible are well aware of what they are doing. They simply do not care.
The climate deniers are not the problem and it isn’t every individuals responsibility to dramatically alter their lives and consumption for the smallest effect on our environment. Your average climate denier denier does not make this better obviously but they are a victim of an intentionally deceitful propaganda campaign
they disproportionately spew carbon into the atmosphere intentionally subverting their vehicle’s emission reduction technology purposely for the ability to offend the libs.
I agree with your premise, but think it’s in addition to the principles I suggested, not instead.
I wish I could tell every single one this. But they are too dumb to get it.
yup. had someone in another thread, today, say that covid was the same thing as the flu and wearing ‘pantyliners’ on our faces was because we were scared.
1.2 million dead americans, 1500+ dead every week for 3 years on average… the only thing I’m scared of is letting morons like that make decisions that impact the rest of society. If only they realized they don’t live in bubbles and cooperating is mutually beneficial, but that would take a modicum of grey matter that they apparently cannot muster.
Firefly was overrated and was right to be cancelled.
Get out.
I was digging this thread until this post. I am looking for my pitchfork now.
Well done.
I hate that I’m supposed to upvote this comment.
How can cowboys and hookers in space be anything but fantastic?
whats firefly
[TV series](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefly_(TV_series\))
Fuck you! Fuck you AND the horse you rode in on.
Actually, you seem to one of the only ones to understand the post. But still, firefly was awesome, don’t go there
I saw Serenity before I knew Firefly existed. Love that movie but couldn’t agree with you more about the show.
I like the 1990s Super Mario Brothers movie
I’m so glad I saw this cause I’m getting a physical copy of it soon.
They went so needlessly deep on the world building while being completely disconnected to the IP.
It is far and away a better story than the new one.
I like my expensive steak well done.
Let me say that your comment is on topic and a valuable addition to the conversation. I hope you get many upvotes.
Personally I think you should be banned from eating a good cut of meat ever again. The boiled leather of an old worn out shoe should be a feast for you.
Blocked.
Don’t forget to smother it in ketchup
And eat it out of a highchair
With ranch for dipping.
I used to eat steak well done until I made it myself for the first time and massively misjudged the timings. Came out medium rare and it was amazing. Do it that way every time now.
But people acting like well done steak is a crime against nature is so bizarre.
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I hate that I have to upvote this…
Not a problem. But it tastes very similar to a cheap steak well done.
Do you also drink single malt whisky with coke?
Personally, I do like cocaine with my Scotch, but I understand most people don’t.
I did not care for the Lord of the Rings.
Love the movies, can’t get through 2 chapters of the books. I’ve easily read 1,000+ books, and I’m very forgiving, i.e., not picky. But I just can’t get into Tolkien.
Loved the books (read 'em mutiple times) but didn’t care for the movies. Not even the look of them (the film was over exposed with an ugly color palet).
I hear ya. I found the first half of Fellowship to be excruciating to read. Especially the Tom Bombadil stuff. I gritted my teeth and struggled through it. Then when they get to the barrow downs it really picks up, and I enjoyed the second half of the book.
I found Two Towers a really fun read.
I found Return of the King to be okay. Pace was decent but Tolkien’s over the top, grandious writing style in that book got kind of annoying.
Not sure if this helps you, but I thought I’d share my thoughts just in case.
I absolutely hated them the first time I watched them in the theatre. Years and years later I watched them on my sofa, in my living rooms, and finally enjoyed them.
They were too long and drawn out of a story to be engaged by surrounded by screaming children and teenagers yapping to each other.
Watching it at home it went from something I hated to one of my favourites.
The Two Towers remains to this day the only book that I was reading by my own choice that I skipped parts of. Maybe I’d read them if I was reading it today (it was the history lecture part, I wanted them to get on with the story but might appreciate the history more now), but I don’t really care to read Tolkien again. I’ll always appreciate what he did for the fantasy genre, but it has evolved beyond him now IMO.
Black tea is superior to coffee, because the caffeine rush is much more pleasant and the crash is mild. It’s better at helping you focus and improving your mood. Tea doesn’t wreck your stomach lining and turn you into a raving looney when you can’t get it. It’s cheaper than coffee, pound for pound. The people who run the world are all tea drinkers.
takes his daily ritaline
Yeah such a mild crash when I drink tea in the morning
Standard English breakfast? Or something else?
Nay nay! Loose leaf single origin or GTFO! Since we’re being controversial, let’s be a fun type and talk about what really matters. How long of a steep?! COME AT ME TEABROOOOS
I enjoy both but well brewed tea seems to be faster and less work than well brewed coffee. Both to prepare and in cleanup / maintenance of the equipment.
Indeed! High five!
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I don’t think capitalism is the worst thing on earth.
Capitalism isn’t the worst, but unregulated capitalism? There’s gotta be boundaries. Capitalism is never gonna care about dumping toxic waste into that river or carbon into the air.
Obviously there are worse things but they doesn’t make capitalism great either
Am I saying capitalism is perfect? Definitely not. But I feel like people tend to blame everything that’s wrong with the world with capitalism. Problems that would 100% still exist in other economic models.
Case in point, I used to hang out in /r/vegan and people there would blame meat consumption on capitalism. I hate to break it to you but there has never been an economic model in history where people treated animals ethically.
“Capitalism sucks” really has become the blanket statement for a lot of people these days whenever they see something they don’t like about the world. I’m sorry but switching to communism, socialism, anarchism, etc isn’t going to make people and the world suck any less.
That’s how capitalism gets you. It’s insidious.
It probably isn’t. The problem with it is that it will, by its nature, ultimately collapse. But so do states that use other systems seemingly.
In capitalism profits must always improve. You always need to produce more, leading to exploitation of resources or do the same with less resource, meaning you lay off employees.
Ultimately resources run out, you can’t lay off any more people or the economy becomes so awful nobody has the money to pay for your services.
You’re not wrong. The basic premise of it seems fine. We have money, which can be a convenient way to do trades. I work in one career, but it doesn’t give me food. Instead I get food from the store. And they need it from the farmers. But having food doesn’t provide them with their other needs, so they go to another specialist. But that specialist doesn’t get everything they need, so they come to me. So using cash is a convenient way of exchanging goods and services.
And some people enjoy running a company. They see a product people need or want, and maybe it’s something they also need or want, and they enjoy making it, so they make a business out of it.
The basic premise of it makes sense. I prefer us to have another system, especially since I can see the issues with it. But for the most part, I also wouldn’t hate it as much if we weren’t in the over aggressive form of capitalism we have now.
All this revolutionary technology in the world and yet the masses are dumber
Giving people tools does not make them smarter.
Because there are people with money and power who use this technology to manipulate people.
Let’s be honest: way more people than we would like to admit gravitate towards junk content on their own, most of the time.
Celebrity gossip and conspiracies, reactionary politics and pseudo-science.There is a ton and a half of extraordinary educational content on places like YouTube. Say you start watching videos from the PBS Spacetime channel, then start watching what the algorithm throws at you. Pretty soon you’ll be getting things like Cambridge physics lectures on your feed. Then suddenly videos about mathematical equations start appearing, another rabbit hole opening up before your eyes.
The algorithm is an incredibly powerful tool, and just like a knife or a blowtorch, it can be mishandled and/or abused.
So you give people the tool, people start inputting shit into the tool, and when shit comes out the other end, it’s all about “oh look… it’s the fault of capitalism!”
Maybe capitalism seems mediocre because people are mediocre.
They rant about how there’s no good options, you give them a good option, they stare at it blankly for a second before turning their backs on it, to keep on ranting about how there are no good options, and how it’s exclusively the fault of some pig in a suit in New York City, or some librul mooslem-lovin’ gay commie bastard from Hollywood.The algorithm is an incredibly powerful tool, and just like a knife or a blowtorch, it can be mishandled and/or abused.
Yes, but the people who decided how the algo should work on youtube decided it should increase watch time and ad revenue, not quality content. Same with facebook. I dont want to have to chooce between good and clickbait content, the same way i dont want to have to choose between unhealty or good food options in the supermarket.
Almost all of us here spend too much time addicted to what technology has created, it’s ruining our lives, we know it, but rather than face that fact, we spend even more time on what technology has created to voice blame on anything but ourselves.
And we are mad at ourselves, but it feels even better to be mad at other people, social structures, and the wealthy. But, we’re cheap and easy, so we do the easy thing that makes us feel better, even though it’s a cheap and temporary feeling.
