• Sunfoil@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Well you’re refusing to educate me if I am wrong. Point to a single action the DNC took that cost Bernie the election. Biden and Clinton got more votes so won. Why are you hung up on some states?

    I’m not sure why you keep instructing me to mouth off, kinda weird.

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      10 months ago

      I showed you, the DNC collaborated with Hillary. Read up on that collaboration behind closed doors.

      I’m hung up on Biden winning states that didn’t matter for the general election because they went to Trump anyways. Biden ran on being the “safe” option even though Bernie was polling better.

      The fact is, the DNC won’t move left because they need donations from wealthy Capitalists.

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        10 months ago

        So your problem is that we should only care about the votes of Democrats in safe blue states? Is the idea we shouldn’t count the votes of Democrats in red states in the primaries? This makes no sense.

        Yeah the DNC being meaningfully anti Bernie is QAnon level conspiracy nonsense. At a basic level of analysis it makes no sense. I’ve read up on it plenty and it only confirms this. Ideological, partisan nonsense that is honestly embarrassing for the left wing.

        I would vote Bernie and I think he should have been President. But he didn’t get the fucking votes so he isn’t. Tough luck.

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          10 months ago

          Nah, you just don’t understand primaries nor do you understand electoralism, and dismissing it at QAnon bullshit because reality disagrees with you just proves me right.

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            10 months ago

            Ha ok then. You always know someone has it right when they say you’re wrong, but now how.

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              10 months ago

              I already told you. Bernie would’ve beaten Trump regardless, Biden was only popular in states that ended up going to Trump, and carried that momentum through the Primary process. It’s likely that Bernie would’ve won flat out had the primaries been simultaneous, plus there’s the previous DNC fuckery you keep walking back and pretending didn’t exist.

              All of that is to say that the DNC and major news outlets absolutely massage the narrative in favor of the most bland and benign Capitalist they can, in this case Biden, despite Bernies policies being far more popular.

              It’s quite simple, and no matter how hard you defend the current system, it’s fucked regardless and designed to change as little as possible.

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                10 months ago

                This is basically just paragraphs of cope at this point. Trump people have a similar set of arguments. “The mainstream media blah blah blah”, “The SYSTEM is fucked”, “the DNC blah blah blah” same shit, different coloured hat. If only you guys had the grace of Sanders himself to know when you lost.

                None of this has any substance. What-ifs, would-haves, and conspiracy.

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                  10 months ago

                  I really don’t know what to tell you, you only screech and squawk without actually countering anything I’ve brought up. You call it “cope” when your only tactic is to compare what I’m saying to Trump supporters. Guess radlibs are gonna radlib, I suppose.