• Sylver@lemmy.world
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    On one hand, this has got to be public trolling. On the other, it’s still a bill calling for a classification of people to be removed from society. If it weren’t so scary it would be funny.

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      Fascism demands outlandish “enemies” in order to justify punishment as policy. Usually, no suitable ones exist, so they are created through outlandish fantasy.

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      it’s both fucking insane and scary. remember that furry hate has always been thinly veiled homophobia

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          This is a weird amount of preoccupation to have with a subculture of mostly queer people who just watched too much Disney and read too much Warrior Cats or Animorphs as kids.

          In general furries embrace their cringe and are unashamed of the stuff they enjoy, can’t say I see anything near as wholesome from the company you keep when you’re hand wringing about sexual degenerates that should be banned from schools.

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          You can not be homophobic and have similar thoughts on a subject with a group that is.

          Very little has a strictly black and white separation in this world, it’s all shades of grey.

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              And neither do most furries. It’s like saying gamers are fucked up because they wanna fuck Lara Croff and cosplay Let Me Solo Her. The weirdest parts of a community aren’t the only parts, or even the biggest parts. Plenty of furries just like watching Looney Tunes and Zootopia and making OCs.

              The furries=sexual deviants line was what they once said about Trekkies, and it was as true then as it is now.

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                  Put way better than I could say it, thank you. As somebody who’s been on the edge of that community for years as an artist, the hatred they get has always baffled me.

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                  The sample they used is likely not representative of the whole fandom; they only interviewed 334 furries in the study, from a fandom made of millions of people. And the participants were all male, too.

                  …I can’t be the only one who actually reads these things, right?

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                  But saying there isn’t a sexual aspect about it, is not true.

                  Bruh, take anything and you can probably find a sexual aspect about it.

                  There’s a sexual aspect about Sports Illustrated. I’m not going to turn around and say everyone who subscribes to Sports Illustrated is a pervert.

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                    Facts. I mean, I know I don’t need to, but I’m going to quote Rule 34 in its entirety:

                    If it exists, there is porn of it. No exceptions.

                    Take anything and I guarantee you, someone, somewhere, has sexualized it. And if not, there is Rule 35, which states

                    If there is no porn of it, porn of it will be made.

                    Some can interpret this as, “If you discover that something has no porn, you have a responsibility to make it.”

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                  I didn’t say there was no sexual aspect to it, but I stand corrected that there’s some sexual aspect involved for the vast majority (at least of the men they interviewed). I wish the rest of that study wasn’t locked behind a paywall, 'cause I’m curious about the details now. I wanna know what they mean by “some aspect.” However, it’s disingenuous/misleading to say that furries are attracted to animals, as that’s zoophilia and is on the same level as pedophilia. Grouping the two together like that is like “MAPs” claiming they’re part of the LGBT. My general experience with furries is that the animal fuckers are treated on the same level as the Nazi furs.

                  Whenever this kind of thing comes up, though, I can’t help but think about the internet outrage from when they made Lola Bunny’s boobs smaller in the new Space Jam movie and wonder how many of those people are the same people who call furries gross, lmao.

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                  Hey, is there some reason you changed the phrase that the researchers very consistently used, which was anthropomorphic animals, which they defined in the very first sentence as being like Bugs Bunny? You get how that is not the same as looking at a living rabbit and feeling sexual arousal, right?

                  I guess “most furries want to fuck characters like Bugs Bunny!!” was just obvious shit everyone already knew.

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          Idk man that doesn’t quite sound like hate to me. More of a sting dislike. I think the point still stands.

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          Non-furries love anthropomorphic animal characters. Our culture is full of them; all cultures are. Furries didn’t invent sports mascots, Looney Tunes, the Easter Bunny, Aesop’s fables, or the Egyptian pantheon. Obviously it’s not the appreciation for talking animals that people actually hate. So why is it that, out of all the weird subcultures that exist, the one that gets the most hate thrown at it is the one centered around a love of something universal to all human cultures?

          It’s because the founders of the modern furry fandom were gay and poly, and the fandom has always had an overwhelmingly LGBT membership because it used to be the only non-fetish community that openly accepted gay and trans people. All anti-furry hate is either a negative reaction to the fandom’s queerness or a deliberate attempt to attack the LGBT community by proxy.

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            I’m sorry but the only way I can describe that perspective is “delusional”. First of all, I’m going to point out that by starting your conclusion with “All furry hate”, you’ve already revealed that you’re simply here to make generalizations instead of to be accurate. Nearly no statement that starts with “all”, “none”, “every”, etc. about such a large group (furry haters) is even worth considering.

            Now that I’ve gotten that out of the way: No, people don’t hate furries because they’re LGBT. Most people know nothing about the movement or its founders, and don’t care to. People dislike the furry community because:

            1. Fursuits look weird. Mascots and the easter bunny fall into this category too. Non-fursuit anthropomorphic animals (eg. Looney Tunes) are generally well-regarded, even somewhat if they’re from the furry community.

            2. Someone told them about yiff or showed them a vore picture and now they hate all furries.

            3. Their primary interactions with furries lead them into direct contact with “the weird kids” aka assorted cringy 12 year olds. Any community with a significant number of preteens will have this same repulsive effect on older teenagers and young adults, or even other preteens. See also: Fortnite, Skibidi Toilet, FNAF to some extent, Roblox, etc.

            That’s it. There’s no grand anti-lgbt conspiracy. Furries are just weird. If you want, I have access to a discord server that’s like 60-70% queer and I can make a google form to prove this.