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    Next will be memory. They will say everything you meed should be stored online for a subscription fee.

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      Microsoft is already trying hard. My poor mom did not notice all her files are on OneDrive. Now she has two laptops with everything remote on OneDrive. It’s has some advantages, but it’s annoying in so many more ways.

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        There’s a setting in Onedrive to keep a copy of everything on the device. It will still get stored in the cloud too, but it means that everything will be available if the internet goes down.

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          A few years ago my ex got a new laptop and it had onedrive enabled system-wide by default. She didn’t realize until after she had been using it for months, I had to spend several hours backing up her files and defenestrating onedrive. It not as simple as just turning it off because it was even on critical system folders, you have to go in the registry and remap the those folders manually one at time before you can disable it.

          It is possible, but it fucking sucks.

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        It’s not annoying at all. It’s peace of mind. People are just not used to it

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          if you want peace of mind, make your own backups and when you need them, you can pull them from your drawer, not from us-east-1 (currently on fire)

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          I didn’t criticize anyone, I didn’t disrespect anyone, so it’s surprising getting this many downvotes and answers.

          Still, it’s your opinion, and I will still share mine.

          Local backups have their flaws, just like cloud backups.

          I have 1TB storage using my school account. I am constantly changing between devices, and I like having my files always accessible.

          Everything important, I keep in two local backups (external HDD and SSD).

          The only thing I dislike about onedrive, is the sync of desktop, documents and images folder. I have turned that off, but my docs folder still appears to be syncing with onedrive.

          Besides that, it’s the best thing for me. And like I said… “Peace of mind”. Just because you don’t like that, it does not mean it is a bad solution.

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            I’m surprised your post didn’t get deleted by a moderator. Lemmy is weird about dissenting opinions.

            I don’t like OneDrive. I particularly don’t like how it integrates into everything without an easy way to turn it off. But I see the value for regular people to be forced to back up their data by default.

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              Didn’t knew that.

              But, after getting downvoted, I searched for better solutions.

              It appears that a good option would be to encrypt my files (using 7-zip or veracrypt) and upload them to a more privacy focused cloud storage provider.

              However, paying for cloud when I have it for free does not make sense.

              But, I already started encrypting every file with 25 char password (randomized and saved using bitwarden). So, better than nothing, right?

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          No, its kidnapping your data to keep you trapped as their customer. If you want peace of mind, you can make your own backups.

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        Drake in the first picture: marketing.

        Drake in the second picture: surprise, we signed you up without asking. You’re welcome.

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        Google photos made it difficult to download or delete your pictures on purpose. You have to manually select them. There is still a way to get them and it was because of GDPR, when you ask google for the whole data of your account they include the pictures and video from google photos.

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          You don’t need to request all account data, you can request only the Google photos data

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      This is Apple already.

      Oh. You can only afford 4GB iPhone? Not to worry, for only $10 a month we can store stuff for you.

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        Also we got rid of photo stream and if you delete the file from the cloud then we remove it from every device

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    They’ll take away volume control (SW/HW buttons) and replace with dynamically adjusting “magic volume” so that you can’t mute ads.

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      Oh Christ. You’ve just triggered a premonition in me–the Galaxy S32 Ultra will be the first smartphone with no physical buttons or ports. You can turn it “off,” but that will only turn on a sort of extreme power saving mode. It will still ping your location once every few minutes, and will keep the fingerprint scanner active. You will “turn on” the device by holding your finger on the fingerprint scanner for four seconds. They will advertise the “quick startup” as a new feature. Volume will be controlled by sliding your finger along the right edge of the phone, which the screen will wrap around all the way to the back. It will be impossible to hold the phone without touching some part of the screen.

      It will only allow wireless charging. You will not be able to connect it directly to a computer. In marketing, this will be to meet rigorous water safety standards. In reality, this will be to prevent you from using ADB to remove apps that come with the phone. You cannot turn off mobile data. You cannot turn off location. You cannot use a third party SMS application. You cannot choose your own wallpaper. You cannot set a private DNS. You cannot install applications that haven’t been approved by Samsung. You cannot block ads. This is all covered on page 74 of subsection 32(a) of section G8 of the terms and conditions that you agreed to when you set up the phone.

      They will meet the physical limitations of how well a small lens can focus light. Zoom will cap out at 150x. Nevertheless, there will be seven cameras.

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        correction a bit, you can use adb via wifi. That’s what I do to sideload an app to my Android TV

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        You will not be able to connect it directly to a computer. In marketing, this will be to meet rigorous water safety standards.

        Making devices water-proof is also a marketing scheme to avoid replaceable batteries :

        Some manufacturers are already eyeing an exemption for batteries used in “wet conditions” to opt out electric toothbrushes and possibly wearables like earbuds and smartwatches. The exemption is “based on unfounded safety claims,” states Thomas Opsomer, policy engineer for iFixit, in Repair.EU’s post.

        Despite the coming up regulation on batteries and waste batteries by the EU Council batteries in water-proof devices will probably be exempt from being replceable, because the water proof feature of the device cannot be guaranteed. This undermines the right to repair and manufacturers can hope that customers replace their entire devices soon. Making phones water-proof is a loophole to seal off the device so that it is not to be repaired, at least without keeping the water-proof features after repairing.

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          Yeah pretty sure the Fairphone 5 and its predecessors have a pretty good IP rating, despite their ability to have the battery removed.

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          I dropped my phone in the bath once, so it’s worth it 🤣

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            I dropped several flip phones in water ranging from bath, to sink, to ponds and creeks in the mid 00’s to mid teens before getting a smart phone. Out of probably 10 phones used only one was ever ruined by the water, the rest all dried out fine when taken apart and left to dry for a day or two.

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        nahhh you’ll be able to choose your own wallpaper, the average user will eat up all of those “feautres” but god forbid Keighleeeigh can’t put her little baby Xaileeyn as her screen saver

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          I know, right? I mean, does he seriously expect virtually every smartphone manufacturer to put holes in his screen and take away his headphone jacks, removable sim cards, SD cards, replaceable batteries, and IR blasters, and switch to an aspect ratio other than 16:9? That would be ridiculous. They never make user-unfriendly changes!

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              And which of the changes he listed would the 95% figure you mentioned care about? By your definition, short of literally turning each feature into a micro transaction, there’s no such thing as user unfriendly changes - and knowing the general public, not even then.

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    Don’t forget the RGB notification led!

    I switched to Chinese brand phones, they still have all this and they’re dirt cheap, currently rocking an Ulephone power armor 18t, which also has a flir infrared camera and a microscope for some reason. No I’m not joking, they work surprisingly well and have come in handy more than I thought they would!

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      Not sure I’d consider £600 “dirt cheap” but the thermal camera is definitely cool.

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      That was the first thing I missed when I went to a Galaxy S22. But aodNotify works great as replacement (you can make your own notification light this way and customize it, not a lot of battery drain either due to the OLED screen). But yeah, removing the notification light sucked.

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      Don’t forget the RGB notification led!

      The Nexus One had this, the trackball had an RGB LED inside it. With custom ROMs it could be customised to flash different colours and patterns for just about anything.

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      The notification LED became a bit obsolete with AOD. I don’t need a bright flashing light, the notification being visible when the screen is off is enough.

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      How did you buy this? It pretty much had everything I want! Big battery, good screen, SD card, waterproof. Any bugs on it day to day? It does seem to have some shitty Chinese android skin.

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        Aliexpress, or Amazon if you want to pay a bit more but get it faster. I’ve had it a few months, no bugs i’ve noticed, it runs essentially stock Android.

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      There are different categories of removable.

      With my old Note, I had an extra battery that came with case/charger combination. If my battery on my phone died, I could swap the battery in 10 seconds.

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        It states that any battery should be removable and replaceable by the user. So this slap on tactic will only work if your device has no internal battery.

        I also noticed this is for all batteries. Not just phones, but also cars etc.

        EDIT: As any EU law there is a lot of nuance and exceptions. I dig a little further and found the following:

        The regulation introduces requirements that say that portable batteries should be easily removable and replaceable by the end-user and LMT batteries and cells in LMT batteries should be easily removable and replaceable by an independent professional.

        So what is LMT?

        The regulation defines five battery categories depending on how the battery is used:

        • Portable batteries
        • Light means of transport (LMT) batteries
        • Starting, lighting and ignition (SLI) batteries
        • Industrial batteries
        • Electric vehicle (EV) batteries

        I couldn’t find any concrete wording for “easily removed and replaceable”. But I sure hope it means no more glue for the portable batteries.

        Source: https://www.intertek.com/blog/2023/08-17-battery-regulation/

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          “Replaceable by user” has a lot of wiggle room. It could still be a 20-minute process that risks damaging other parts and requires specialized tools.

          If phones are to keep their water resistance, they almost certainly won’t be tooless, and will involve swapping out gaskets. It’ll be something you can do to replace a failed battery, not a quick swap because you went camping for the weekend and threw an extra battery in the bag since there are no outlets.

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            Could you read and understand the information behind the link before replying with nonsense?

            FYI: there were waterproof phones before replaceable batteries disappeared. Also the Fairphone for example IPS rated for resistant, so not perfect, but it’s possible.

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                Usually legislation is intentionally vague like that, ultimately courts will decide what that really means in practice.

                It will end up being just reasonable. Any person can have a reasonable expectation that they will be able to replace the battery with a reasonable amount of time and effort, with readily available tools, with a reasonable amount of guidance.

                If you were a judge would you say that it’s reasonable to expect people to be able to replace soldered components on their phones?

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              None of that addresses his point that “removable by the user” is not clearly defined. I didn’t see any definition for it in the link you posted.

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          What do you mean only if it has no internal battery? This will make it so they can’t fuse a battery in place and call it internal. It has to be removable.

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            That is what I meant?

            That it is nice the op has a battery-case for their phone, but that it will not fly under the new law unless the phone has no internal battery.

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              You mean an internal battery in addition to a main removable one? Sorry if I’m being dense.

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        I agree. I used to carry a spare at all times as well. So nice to be able to swap as soon as you get close to empty. I’m hoping we’ll get back there eventually.

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    This goddamn camera built into my screen instead of above the screen pisses me off so fucking much. So often I have to move a picture down to read the top of it.

    IT’S BLOCKING MY MEMES GOD FUCKING DAMMIT MY MEMES

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      People look at me like I’m fucking insane when I get as upset about the blighted notch on my screen as I do. This screen technically has more real estate than my Razer Phone 2 back in 2018 did, but between the obnoxiously tall aspect ratio and the fucking notch, it has like 75% of the usable screen space. You know what was really nice? Watching TV shows on my RP2, with the 6" screen, all of which was used for the video. You know what sucks? Having a half inch of black bars on either side of the screen so that the 16:9 aspect ratio video can fit on the 18:9 aspect ratio screen. And it’s even more ass than that, because the top and bottom of the video look like shit because the screen wraps around the fucking sides.

      If the FBI could hear what I have to say about the engineers at samsung, I would have been arrested years ago

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      Hey man, I know this is a rant, but in case you didn’t know there should be a setting to resize things to make a black bar at the top. Google it for your phone, but for samsung it’s something like “full sceeen apps”.

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      How often do you come across tall pictures? Most pictures sit well below the camera for me

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    The IR blaster needs to come back. They were mostly on phones pre-smart device where they had super limited usage. With a smart device, they could practically do anything. I wanna use my phone as a universal remote, damn it.

    I want a 0hysical.keyboadd too. Touch screen sucks.

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      I had it on my Xiaomi around 5 years ago, amazing stuff. Could turn on-off air conditioning anywhere, great party trick

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        my POCO has it, one remote is great feature, and it’s easier to find when it can be pinged.

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      0hysical.keyboadd

      They were removed, not suppressed. No need to write in code like it’s spam for dick-pills. Though I would like my goddamn ¢@mεra bu#0n back.

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      Oh man, I wish I still had this. I miss the days when I could mess with a friend’s device and watch them lose their mind. Definitely a fun game as long as everyone else in the room knew it was a harmless prank.

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        Same. I’ve used the 3.5mm port for my truck daily for the past 10 years. Don’t need it as much now that I got a new truck, but I still use it when I ride my motorcycle. Bluetooth earbuds just don’t fit under my helmet.

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          It’s not better, it’s more convenient. Bluetooth earbuds are basically not repairable and they’re more expensive than their wired counterparts if you want something decent. The call quality is also worse due to bluetooth’s limitations.

          Both types of headphones have their pros and cons and both can coexist. Don’t be dumb, don’t defend companies taking away options for no good reason other than planned obsolesence.

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          The phones with a headphone jack also had Bluetooth support though.

          This isn’t an either/or

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      Wouldn’t those be warm hands? Pretty sure the S9 was the one that caught fire all the time? Or was that the S7?

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    Do many people know that there is actually a patent for the idea of an advertisement that plays to a certain point… and then does not end, will not let you skip it, until you as the user, via a camera and microphone, can be verified to have assumed a pose, made a facial expression, and/or said a specific phrase?

    The actual patent shows a smart tv ‘owner’ standing up and saying McDonalds! in order to like keep watching Netflix.

    We quite literally have the tech and the legal framework for ‘Drink Verification Mountain Dew Can’ to actually be a thing.

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      The illustration of that patent practically a meme, many on Lemmy should know it.

      Though it should be kept in mind there’s thousands of patents that were never actually applied, and this one was filled back in 2009.

      We quite literally have the tech and the legal framework

      Do patents necessarily have to follow the law?

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        Though it should be kept in mind there’s thousands of patents that were never actually applied, and this one was filled back in 2009.

        This is genuinely a good thing, then. If you patent something and “accidentally” never use it, it prevents other companies from using it legally. Screw over advertisers and save the consumers from their terrible ideas by hoarding patents and working with a patent troll firm :)

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          Not really. Patests expire and then they can just read the specs in your idea. No reverse-engineering effort required.

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            It takes 20 years for patents to expire, and you can’t commercially use the patented invention until then. If I “invent” and patent 50 different methods to track viewer attention during video advertisements, that’s 50 fewer ways that some company would be able to achieve it.

            It would be impossible to cover every possible method to achieve the same thing, but the risk of violating a patent held by a highly litigious patent troll might be a good enough deterrent to stop the whole idea from making it to market for a couple decades.

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              Yes, but after 20 years you’re not at square one, others have free reign to use and abuse your expired patent. Sure, you can tacticize patents in a way where you make a starting patent, then before it’s about to expire “expand” it with a new one in a way which invalidates use of the previous, but I don’t know if that “loophole” is patched and if not, how it looks in real life.

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                That is an entirely valid concern, and I see where you’re coming from with that. It would be short-sighted to introduce something revolutionary, only to open the floodgates for everyone else to start implementing it two decades later.

                I was thinking of using patents more along the lines of “throw shit at the wall and see what sticks.” Rather than trying to come up with every conceivable method for tracking user attention and patenting those, the hypothetical patent troll would create and patent hundreds of different smaller, novel processes that may or may not be needed as part of a larger system for tracking user attention. The overall goal being to make it likely enough for one or more of those patents to be violated that a company would consider it too risky to go anywhere near the idea of commercializing attention tracking software/hardware.

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        Eh? Do patents necessarily have to follow the law?

        …no? They are ideas.

        They are also a legal construct to organize business uses and control of ideas around.

        Hence a patent and the patent system are a legal framework.

        Legal frameworks are often involved in things that later end up being determined to be illegal.

        Large businesses usually like to set up some kind of comprehensive legal framework before they roll out a new product or feature.

        Not saying they will. I am saying setting up a legal framework is usually groundwork before you do though.

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    The day I can’t find a phone that has an headphone jack is the day I go feral and become a hermit in the woods.

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      It’s the SD card for me. We are getting phones with 1tb now, so that will work. But with the phones that do offer it, you have to get the most expensive version for it. Meanwhile if they just give me an SD card slot, I can have that fixed myself. Just take the one out of my current phone and plop it in the new phone.

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      If you want the rest of the specs to be decent, then that day is fast approaching or already here.

      I had to jump from a phone that had about 5.5 of the features on that list to one with none of them (although I do like the 3 rear cameras) and I hate that I had to do that.

      But I kept “Easily rootable” and that’s what really matters to me.

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      I hate the loss but just buy a bunch of USBC to headphone adapters, stick them on all your headphones/aux cables, and forget you don’t have a headphone jack on your phone.

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    Smartphone manufacturers, if you’re reading this:

    I spent 6 hours on google to find a phone with a screen smaller than 6 inch. I did find none (except an old iPhone, but I want android), so I had to buy one 6 inch. It is too unwieldy. I am annoyed.

    There is a serious market for people like me. Do not look away. Somebody will buy these phones.

    Also, by the way, it’s not bad if the phones are a bit thicker.

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    You know what else they’ve taken from us? Actually unique designs for phones. When I look at modern day smartphones, for some reason they look like clones of each other. Where’s all the spunk that these manufacturers used to put in their devices?

    Fuck you, minimalism. Ever since you’ve ruined my iPhone back in 2013, my life has never been the same.

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        For the physical part? A couple cents per phone sold.

        But it’s also one less part for for the circuit board designers to accomodate in their ever-shrinking layouts, one less part to inventory, track, and warehouse, one less behavior to verify by Q&A, one less SW and/or HDL code module to maintain, etc etc etc. When you look at the entire design, verification, and manufacturing process, multiplied by millions of units, every part and behavior carries a cost.

        There are plenty of valid reasons to crap on the major phone manufacturers, especially when they take away features and capabilities we like. But “it’s just one small part” usually isn’t one of them.

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      OLED displays have obsoleted notification LEDs. And phones with physical keyboards don’t sell.

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        OLED displays certainly could, but there is no baked it app that wakes up the screen only if you have a message, blink in different colors or frequencies depending on the message and use the low power always on display api.

        Yeah, you can glance at your always on display and make out the little symbol. But that’s not an adequate replacement to the notification LED. If I had to guess, it was removed to drive up engagement with your phone.

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        I wouldn’t call the “always on display” some kind of innovative technology that makes notification LEDs obsolete… AOD is a battery draining complement to notification LEDs, not a replacement – we just don’t have the latter anymore because of corporate greed and consumer mentalities :/

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          There are notification apps to replicate the feature. A single pixel lighting on an OLED screen uses no more energy than a physically separate led. The CPU isn’t sleeping to update the notification led either way.

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            Appreciate the response. Figured this was “easily” do-able, but I honestly remember not being able to find anything pre-implemented for this a couple years ago when I last checked. Maybe my search, then, idk… Anyways, yeah, physically separate LED do sound a lot more obsolete with that in mind

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      Controversial: it was much easier and safer to text while driving with a physical keyboard. You could type with one hand, hold the steering wheel with the other, all while still looking at the road because you could feel where the buttons were.

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    Give me back my goddamed physical keyboard

    I still remember the extended conversation I had with the cell phone man on the day I realized that time had moved on, and it wasn’t even possible for me to buy a third-party phone that still had a keyboard and then hook it up to their network anymore. I was just going to have to poke haplessly at the glass and get letters wrong for the rest of my life.

    IT’S MY MONEY, LET ME BUY THE KIND OF PHONE I WANT