• _number8_@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    sorry this is gross:

    i do not understand american’s aversion to the bidet. why would i want to wipe my ass with dry fucking paper rather than water? why why why. like it’s somehow ‘gross’ to use water. but scraping at wet shit with fucking tissue paper is hygienic and normal?

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      American with bidet for 2.5 yrs. I hate shitting anywhere else now. Need a shower to get a new ass. Day is ruined.

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      Somebody once said it to me like this: “If you faceplant into a pile of shit, would you rather wipe your face with a dry paper, or use water for cleaning”

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      This is also gross. There’s a lot of men in the US that thinks touching there ass is gay so they never clean them.

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      11 months ago

      Pretty much every thread we have in this community, someone comes along to say “you should pressure-wash your asshole”. I’m mildly bemused that this is what Lemmy obsesses over.

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        It’s not just Lemmy, the sentiment is on Reddit and such as well.

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        I’ve always heard it explained like this (which I wholeheartedly agree with). Imagine you’re hiking a trail in the forest, and you trip on a rock and fall. By chance, you land on turd of excrement, luckily it only smears part of your arm and elbow with shit. Would you be fine just taking a piece of toilet paper and scraping it off? Or, would you feel compelled to wash it off with water, perhaps also soap?

        Why wouldn’t you just use paper, if you scrape hard enough it wouldn’t even smell and be just as clean, arguably?

        If you would at least use water, why do you extend to your elbow a courtesy that you don’t extend to your anus?

        The point is that there’s a lot of people who walk through life with a dirty asshole, but then try to act morally superior regarding personal hygiene, and I think that that’s not right.

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        I was in Asia and got pretty horrible food poisoning. My wife suggested we head over to this Japanese mall. Spent the day there. Use the toilet, walk around, buy something, use the toilet. That was the ideal toilet to have in that situation.

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      I don’t understand this either, toilets already require running water and have plenty of room to integrate bidet function. It’s not fancy tech or anything… in North America that’s sort of how they’re marketed though, with an emphasis on the settings, like its something you have to learn to use.

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      I live in Japan. My wife and I recently went to visit my family in the US and I hated every minute of the toilet situation.

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      I own a BioBidet 2000. My friend Brian has one at his house and he convinced me to just try it. I did. And then I ordered one for myself before I left the bathroom.

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          I’ve never used your $20 Luxe bidet to know the difference, but I’m going to assume it doesn’t have a heated seat, heated water, variable pressure settings, massage settings, and an enema setting. If those features don’t interest you, then nothing at all makes it better. Use what you like. My wife just really loves the heated seat in the winter time.

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        Tell Brian thank you. I just used his and ordered one too.

        Edit: I really did order one though, my current bidet needs an upgrade.

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      It’s like having a second toilet seat. Takes more room.

      Not from the US and live in a condo, so I’m speaking from a purely practical standpoint. My condo is not that big and having a bidet would mean that I have no place to put my washer and dryer at.

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          That’s not really traditionally true. Modern ones are integrated into the toilet seat, but they used to be a standalone fixture.

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            Yes, I was thinking about the old designs, haven’t brushed up on new designs.

            Sure, in that case, I would consider it, why not.

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            Check out the new ones. They fit right between the toilet seat and the bowl lip. Super slim. Plus, always clean ass.

            You know those poops you take when you wipe once and it’s already clean? It’s like that but ALL THE TIME.

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              Damn… this does seem like the way to go.

              I will most definitely look this up, seems like a real time and money saver 👍.

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          I suppose there’s also a mini electrical boiler in there somewhere, so the water’s not cold when it hits my ass.

          Cool though, will look into this, seems like a nice soltion, toilet paper is getting more and more expensive.

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            Some of them have it, but that complicates the installation. I bought one without a heater ages ago, thinking I’d hate it. I actually hardly notice the cold water. Your butthole isn’t great at sensing hot vs cold.

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              My butthole is pretty good at sensing temperature. During the winter I have to try and use the bidet fast with the room temp water before the cold outside water gets to my turd cutter.

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              Here, it was below -25C (-13F) last night, and it has generally been below -20C at night for weeks now. Our water is now very cold. Believe me when I say your asshole will notice that.

              I will say tap water at this temperature is fantastic to drink though.

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      I used them while visiting Europe. They made my ass incredibly itchy. I’m good with the paper and washing my hands.

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        Uhhm, I’m not a doctor and this is not medical advice, but. You should talk to a proctologist about hemorrhoids or other blood circulation issues. Anuses are not supposed to itch when lightly sprayed with water, or ever for that matter, and that sensation might be a sign of tissue inflammation. Don’t ask me how I know this.

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          This was many years ago. The itching didn’t happen immediately. Good advice to not take medical advice in social media comments.

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      Completely agree. I was raised with bidets/ water cleaning. TP That’s just a dry off or catch those last few drops

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      Cultures who use bidets and not the bum gun will always confuse me. Ones a robot strapped to the toilet that does a medicore job at one thing, then other is a cheap water gun you can use for all sorts of shit (pun intended).

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      They’ve become increasingly common in recent years. I don’t think there’s as much of an aversion as you appear to imagine.