Only seven states currently bar “subminimum” pay for tipped workers like bartenders and restaurant servers, but activists see 2024 as ripe to expand the tally to as many as 20.
Most of us against tipping have absolutely worked in restaurants, which is exactly why we are against it. The only people in favour of tipping (which also have reasoning that makes any sense) are those who don’t tip and end up being subsidized by everyone else.
You either worked at a shitty place or you were bad at your job.
I used to walk with $2-300 a night a decade ago. That industry allowed me to pursue other things and I have fond memories of it. It just brings your body down and the hours absolutely suck so as to be unsustainable.
I think people who make tips like them because they get a bunch of money randomly on nights they work. But the problem with it is that it’s random. If they are required to pay you more money then your pay check will just always have a bunch of money in it so that’s better. People can still tip if they feel you did a good job. You shouldn’t be dependent on that to live. You should be guaranteed a living wage for showing up and doing your job.
I wasn’t even really talking about people who don’t tip. What if the people don’t ever come in? Then you wouldn’t get paid hardly at all if you only rely on tips. The owner of the restaurant has you there to clean and babysit their business in case a customer decides to show up and all you get is like $3 an hour for it because maybe you might get a tip if the customer is nice? That’s a shit deal. It’s not fair to restaurant employees. Also making them pay minimum wage doesn’t mean people won’t still tip. They totally will because the expectation is still there.
In this thread: hot takes from people who have never worked in a restaurant
Most of us against tipping have absolutely worked in restaurants, which is exactly why we are against it. The only people in favour of tipping (which also have reasoning that makes any sense) are those who don’t tip and end up being subsidized by everyone else.
You either worked at a shitty place or you were bad at your job.
I used to walk with $2-300 a night a decade ago. That industry allowed me to pursue other things and I have fond memories of it. It just brings your body down and the hours absolutely suck so as to be unsustainable.
I think people who make tips like them because they get a bunch of money randomly on nights they work. But the problem with it is that it’s random. If they are required to pay you more money then your pay check will just always have a bunch of money in it so that’s better. People can still tip if they feel you did a good job. You shouldn’t be dependent on that to live. You should be guaranteed a living wage for showing up and doing your job.
I don’t disagree, but who makes that decision? These are the areas servers swim in
You’re not taking a stand or making any statement besides “I’m an asshole” if you go to a sit down restaurant and don’t tip
I wasn’t even really talking about people who don’t tip. What if the people don’t ever come in? Then you wouldn’t get paid hardly at all if you only rely on tips. The owner of the restaurant has you there to clean and babysit their business in case a customer decides to show up and all you get is like $3 an hour for it because maybe you might get a tip if the customer is nice? That’s a shit deal. It’s not fair to restaurant employees. Also making them pay minimum wage doesn’t mean people won’t still tip. They totally will because the expectation is still there.
Hot takes coming from all over the world with sane labor law and sane culture 🤷
Yeah. I’m sure everything about your country is perfect