I used to be lukewarm about Dave Chappelle’s comedy,” says Travis Merks of Calgary, “but I’m really coming around to him now that he’s awful.”
LOL that was a solid one, Beaverton.
This is too good: I couldn’t tell if it was satire until I looked at the comments.
Dave Chappelle isn’t funny anymore
Chappelle’s quickly-released followup special, titled So Brave,
Lost it lol
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His tone and delivery doesn’t make his whining about being ‘canceled’ or his bigoted jokes from the last five or so years better.
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I love how you admit to not having a fucking clue what everyone is talking about, but still assert, full of confidence, that you’re right anyway. 🤡🤦♀️
Not that it matters, because you clearly don’t care about reality, but
A. “just a joke” isn’t and never has been a defence, it’s just openly “disguised” bigotry, but more importantly
B. Chappelle himself openly admits to not only deliberately antagonizing trans people which he continues to do, but that next he plans to deliberately target disabled people because we’re less “organised” and therefore, he thinks, less likely to push back against his bigotry.
There is only one reason left for anyone to defend this asshole, he made damn sure of it, and he was right too - bigots defend bigots. ¯\(ツ)/¯
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No but they’re all OK with bigotry.
It’s extremely foolish to support Chappelle even using HIS OWN logic. Remember why his show suddenly ended? He realized a ton of people weren’t seeing the irony and were just laughing straight up at the silly bigotry in his skits unironically. It wasn’t making people aware of black issues and it wasn’t helping white people not be bigots.
Then he runs off to Africa to find himself and comes back and … decides to DELIBERATELY TARGET another minority group?! Wasn’t that kind of ignorant heel-digging the exact thing he was making ironic skits about black culture to push against?!
Either way, Dave is either now KNOWINGLY targeting a minority group, or he’s an ignorant boomer too fucking stupid to see he’s doing to trans people exactly what he didn’t want to do to black people.
Either he’s a bigot or a moron. Either way, he doesn’t deserve respect.
yea but that was bigotry aimed at black people, this is bigotry aimed at trans
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“If I get arrested, I’ll say I’m a woman and rape everyone.” is hilarious and definitely not a screaming self-report.
What was your favourite trans joke from this set? Maybe the super-relevant one about the 2 year old music video? The plainly stated Daily Wire talking points maybe?
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It’s not true, though, you understand? It’s just a punch line. He doesn’t really think being trans is the same as pretending to be Asian.
“Joke’s on you, I was only pretending to be a bigot” while being surrounded by and supported by bigots isn’t a great argument that you are in fact not a bigot. 🤷♂️
It is if you’re another bigot who genuinely thinks bigotry is funny…
People just love telling on themselves… 🤷♀️
Lmmfao, in other words, you admit you’re a bigot and are going to die on this hill defending the… what, reputation? of a more famous bigot, who has openly admitted to targeting marginalised people and “loving to punch down” (aka being a bigot), because you just can’t fucking help your bigoted self because you just love bigotry that fucking much.
Fucking clown.
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“He openly admits the punchlines of a joke? No way.”
Nice of you to admit that you think being trans is the punchline of a joke.
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Ok Gramma, back to the home for your meds.
Watch the Closer for both, with the bigotry being him telling jokes at trans people with the excuse that he has one trans friend.
You know, like the old ‘I have one black friend’ excuse that he used to make fun of back when he was funny.
I’m actually really curious about this; I see people using this same line all the time: “You do understand what jokes are, right?” or something very similar.
Do you legitimately believe that the people upset with Dave Chappelle really don’t understand what jokes are? 'Cause, like, that’s really not the case. If you legitimately believe that, then I think it’s probably time for you to re-evaluate how you view reality, 'cause you’ve got some big discrepancies between it and your belief about what reality is.
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I used to love Dave Chappelle. He gave a huge fuck you to the establishment back in the day, and deserved credit for that. He was punching up.
But he decided it bothered him that trans issues got the spotlight, and that he wanted to punch down. Ok: fair play. Yell some jokes.
But then the jokes suck. They’re not insightful. They’re not full of commentary. They don’t highlight dissonance on people’s words or actions.
And if you’re punching down and aren’t funny, you’re not a comedian… you’re just an asshole
I think they don’t like him to begin with
Most of us grew up with him and were excited for him to come back. I watched his first special on Netflix the very first night it came out.
I loved him growing up. Now I see him for the moron/bigot he is. He isn’t a comedy genius. He’s just good at making fun of minorities. He thought he was hot stuff until he realized it was just giving white people an excuse to say more racist shit instead of opening their eyes to the stupidity of bigotry.
He literally quit his show because he didn’t want to do that to black people… but he’s fine doing that to trans people!? He’s either a bigot or a fucking idiot completely unable to see the problem even after he quit his show over it.
I think you’ll find that most of the people watching his comedy are former fans.
So you believe that the people who don’t like what Chappelle has become in the last few years understand what jokes are, but don’t think that Chappelle is joking?
I think that speaks much more to how you define a joke. From what you said, it seems to me that you believe that a joke is completely devoid of meaning and context; that the selection of material and the way it’s told has no bearing on the beliefs of the person telling it. I think you’ll find that most people don’t share this definition.
Jokes, like every other form of communication, are a type of rhetoric. You can tell a lot about a person from the things they find funny. Dave, for instance, seems to find the idea that Trans people are crazy or lying about being trans to be hilarious (judging from his last couple of specials). Most of the people here don’t share that belief.
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The word ‘apologist’ comes from the same Greek root as ‘apology’, apologein, meaning ‘to defend’. Apology is now a synonym for saying sorry, but an apologist is a defender of a cause. Apologists typically don’t apologise for being apologists, if you catch my drift!
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It’s ok to joke about trans people. The problem with Chappelle is trans people are the butt of his jokes.
It’s a rule of life. If you’re punching down, you’re going in the wrong direction.
Also, he’s doing this in a climate where people are trying to eliminate trans people. Read the fucking room Dave
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“If someone laughs then it’s morally unimpeachable” is a sentence you can just say.
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Describe a punchline then that’s funny of his now?
(I haven’t watched him since he occasionally got a laugh out of me when I would skip through the Chapelle show. But usually even back then, he was only funny because it was playing off racist tropes and the uncomfortability added to the humor. He threaded the needle a bit back then, but even he admitted his comedy did more harm than good. Right now he’s doing way more harm to my people, just to grab cash because apparently his Chapelle show money wasn’t enough)
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You can watch his comedy or not (I don’t care)
Seven comments deep and arguing with everyone for over an hour… Uh huh.
So basically you don’t have a joke of his that you can link to that’s funny. Not even a time stamp of the steaming pile of horse shit you keep telling people to watch. 😂
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I’m willing to be convinced you just don’t have it. And I’m not your bud.
No one buys this excuse outside of those who agree with the message of the jokes. Just because it’s told in joke form, doesn’t mean it’s not saying anything. If anything the best types of comedy are the ones where they are saying things. Like I remember a comedian talking about going to do a show, and it wasn’t until right after his set it was a show run by the KKK. If they have a comedy night and make jokes about black people, is that just joking? I mean, you can’t claim it’s racists just because it’s coming from a racist, because it’s a joke. You’re not meant to take it seriously.
Usually the punchlines of his jokes aren’t true statements
You feel the same way about George Carlin and Richard Pryor, right?
My favourite joke was when he said that if he went to prison he’d say he was a woman and rape everyone - that was hilarious, and definitely not a screaming self-report.
What way your favourite joke about those icky transes?
Ooh ohh I nearly forgot - I also loved the joke where he just described a music video that was only what - 2 years old… How topical and insightful!
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Dave became a rich old white hick. It’s not just bad trans humor, it’s old, tired ass bad trans humor. Same style of jokes rich old racist morons use. Hicks absolutely love that kind of empty headed shit though, so they defend him.
Now the fact that Dave disappeared to FUCKING OHIO and “worked on comedy” in fucking OHIO tells you everything you need to know about how fucking unfunny Dave Chappelle is now.
I used to be a huge fan. Now he’s just not funny anymore bigot or no.
Now the fact that Dave disappeared to FUCKING OHIO and “worked on comedy” in fucking OHIO tells you everything you need to know about how fucking unfunny Dave Chappelle is now.
I don’t think Yellow Springs, OH is the reason Dave Chappelle is now a transphobic asshole, as you’re suggesting. Yellow Springs was first started as an attempt to create a socialist utopia. It’s super hippie dippy, and home to a notable liberal arts school. It’s historically much much more liberal than the rest of Ohio.
Also he’s lived there since like 2005, well before his transition into a transphobic asshole.
In my opinion, the reason is money, along with the “fuck you I got mine” attitude that comes with oodles and oodles of money.
It’s a liberal pocket of suburban ohio. Think of Bill Maher types but in a hippie bubble, that’s yellow springs.
Dude was a guy who was totally willing to call bullshit to things and stand up for people.
But then for some reason, he saw a group of marginalized individuals being mistreated, feeling isolated and committing suicide and said, “Let me fuck with them too.”
The karma is when his kids turn on him.
We know it’s satire. In case you didn’t know, satire is often used to poke fun at real world occurrences.
It wasn’t just tired-arse bad trans humour, it was tired-arse bad humour. I got 17 minutes in before I had to stop - I got past the offensive jokes, and then I was stuck listening to jokes other comedians were telling 20 years ago. If I’d kept listening, I’m sure he eventually would’ve made a joke about airline food.
He’s been smoking so much weed the last 20 years the world passed him by.
I’ve been smoking weed for 20 years and I’m not a homophobic, ableist piece of shit and I certainly wouldn’t use a Netflix platform to tell bigoted jokes. So I don’t think it’s the weed. It could be that he’s just an asshole.
i think it’s the mussie stuff more than the weed
I’m not a coward about words, but I’ve had this point deleted by mods before.
Malcolm describes the difference between the “house **gro” and the “field **gro.”
If someone came to the house **gro and said, “Let’s go, let’s separate,” naturally that Uncle Tom would say, “Go where? What could I do without boss? Where would I live? How would I dress? Who would look out for me?” That’s the house **gro. But if you went to the field **gro and said, “Let’s go, let’s separate,” he wouldn’t even ask you where or how. He’d say, “Yes, let’s go.” And that one ended right there.
Full speech: https://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/mmt/mxp/speeches/mxa17.html
Dont take away someone’s blackness, no matter how shitty
The Beaverton is Canadian Satire news. Don’t ya feel like an idiot now lmao
I mean it’s literally posted in theonion group… don’t ya feel like an idiot now lmao
Uhhhh he does actually have a Netflix special where half of it is bad trans jokes tho so who really is the idiot?
This really ain’t the “gotcha” you think it is, buddy. Try again.
The only thing better than watching a bully make an ass of themselves is when they do it trying to mock someone else for not understanding something when they are actually the person who doesn’t understand. I’ve seen two today already, the assholes are out in force!
Tl;dr: wicked self own bro.
You leapt in to defend uncle Dave before checking the c/, huh?
Chappelle: I’d like to announce my new special, “Let’s get TERFy”. It’s just me in front of a brick wall making transphobic jokes for an hour. It cost 80 million dollars.
Interviewer: How do you sleep at night?
Chappelle: On top of a pile of money, with many beautiful ladies.
Lol, nothing beats a cromulent Simpsons reference.
The Beaverton is like a Canadian Onion of sorts.
I stopped watching this guy when he sold out to Elon Musk. How lost do you have to be to do that when you’re as famous as this guy was?
Yeah that was such a I hang with rich people weird move that made no sense. Almost felt like Musk paid to go on stage and Dave was like yeah I’ll take your money.
I didn’t think he’s as transphobic as he’s put out to be. However, he’s not coming off great and I don’t see why he needs those bits. He’s a better comedian than that.
Like I think I saw a clip of one of his most recent ones and at the end it … the point was that a trans man or women doesn’t really look much like who they want to be or identify as to him. I mean, it seems dehumanizing doesn’t it?
Well, maybe he is as transphobic, maybe I gotta see the whole special to get it and it’s part of a larger gag. In any case, I’m not a fan of that type of stuff. Also, he brought Musk on stage so fuck him.
The transphobia stands out because it’s neither funny nor relevant - there’s no purpose to it other than to be a cunt performatively.
The Lil Nas X song he talks about is what - 2 years old now? Beyond that, the “jokes” are the same thing the daily wire has been rolling out for years - “He has a penis and thinks he’s a she hurrr durrr.”
Then there was the whole “If I went to prison, I’d say I’m a woman and rape everyone in sight” hilarity.
Has he ever told a funny trans joke?
That last joke I freaking hate. I swear it’s so goddamned lazy. I’m watching a regular YouTuber talk about some random topic and he decides to chat with his audience and he makes the exact same joke. “Hur dur, if I go jail I’d identity as a women and be super woke cause that’s all they care about now and I’ll get off scot-free”.
I hate it.
I think “joke“ is a stretch with that one - it’s not original, not funny, and delivers no meaningful commentary beyond “I’d be a rapist if I thought I could get away with it.”
Chapelle was a decent comedian when he talked about what he knew and had something to say, but this is just pitiful.
Has anyone?
Oh there certainly are funny trans jokes, it’s just that they come from people who respect trans folks and understand them enough to actually be funny. Just like jokes about black people, which is what used to make Dave funny. He was familiar enough with black culture, and had respect for black people enough, to make actually funny jokes about them where the punchline wasn’t “herrr durr look how dumb and scary they are”.
Yeah this video deals with it quite well
Definitely.
Believe it or not, leftists tend to not be humourless wokescolds and oppression Olympians like the right had to start pretending they are when they abandoned remotely defensible arguments, and had to fall back on being “triggering”.
Others have shared jokes (which I haven’t watched yet), so I’ll skip butchering one myself.
I think Dave just became an old man with set opinions earlier than he was supposed to.
He has similar energy to a not-quite-racist-but-certainly-off-color grandpa.
He’s whatever it takes to grab the headlines. If transphobic comedy is what it takes, that’s what he’s going to give.
It’s his schtick, He goes there because it’s an easy way to differentiate, few people are going to go there these days.
The problem, from a comedy perspective, is that lots of people go there. Ricky Gervais, every right wing late wanna be news or comedy talk show host, every unoriginal Twitter/X jokester, your drunk uncle at Thanksgiving, etc. The “I identify as X” joke they all derive from has been dated since like 2010.
The only reason he makes headlines is because he’s famous and used to be good, and now his bigotry makes people angry and sad instead of laugh. Those reactions do draw clicks, and it makes him want to strike out and keep doing it, because all famous, rich people are children who are mad at people who don’t like them.
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you know I think most people understand that a comedian’s “role” is to be funny, right. and then, they will argue against that comedian, on the basis that they are not living up to their role, they’re not funny. dave’s wrong because he’s not funny. if only dave was funny, then what he’s doing would be fine! I think this is kind of misguided, kind of dumb. you argue against them, accepting the premise of their argument, but then you have an inability to fully take their perspective, see the comedy they apparently can see, and then it kind of falls flat. you’re also not the arbiter of comedy, like, have some perspective, some shitheels are going to find that funny, and their comedy, you know, it exists. we have to stop pretending like it doesn’t.
no, my issue isn’t with his comedy, whether or not he’s funny, I don’t really give a shit about that. I care about whether or not what he’s doing is morally right. comedy is just kind of blatant escapism anyways. are the dozens of people saved from suicide by direct consequence of watching dave’s comedy, are they worth the lifetimes of time wasted on watching him? I don’t want to get like morally puritanical about all media, or say that countercultural media has no place in society, right, but I also think that you have to be trying to do something with your media. just kind of throwing it out there so people can whittle away their life on laughing at your funnyman jokes is kind of lame. that’s why george carlin was good. george carlin was actually not that funny. I know, sacrilege, heresy, whatever. I prefer mitch hedberg, pure wordplay. it’s not that he was funny, it’s that he was legitimately correct, and radical for the time, and unfortunately still somewhat radical today. but it stems from the fact that he was correct. dave being funny, not funny, whatever. but dave is just blatantly incorrect in his worldview, here. the perspective from which he makes these jokes, i’m sure the jokes he’s cracking are funny from that perspective, but it’s a wrong perspective, a bad perspective. it shouldn’t like, not be allowed, be outlawed, not be conversed with, discussed, but it’s a wrong perspective. and i find his comedy to be bad on that basis, rather than on the basis that he’s not funny.
I love the way you write
Chappelle does this because of something people are afraid to talk about because of the identity of the person doing this. An easier way to understand it is identity politics. Didn’t he admit that trans people get more shit than black people now? They don’t even dog whistle us. People can talk about outright killing trans people and incite violence without any consequences. And it’s not like the police like us either.
I always find it funny that people forget the whole story of the Closer in his special, where he took his trans friend and comedian Daphne on tour, effectively giving her, arguably the single largest possible chance a comedian could have?
Don’t want to spoil it but damn, that story broke me.
I assure you nobody has forgotten that Dave “had a trans friend.” Nor that he made sure to pat himself on the back for it.
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If she was such a good friend to him maybe he should stop lying about what caused her suicide.
Ehhh, I’m pretty willing to give him some broad license in telling it. Given her note, you can pretty easily imagine some argument with members of her smaller, more irl friends, who would probably delete or have done things in small chats.
It’s like when Chappelle talks about being confronted in the restaurant, I don’t expect the guy was actually a 6"5 Texan gay wedding a knotted shirt…
You’re comparing a set up for a joke to what is an apparently seriously delivered statement about what drove someone he calls a friend to suicide.
And I completely disagree, he’s not entitled to license when it comes to discussing her suicide. Especially when he’s presenting it as the truth, especially when he’s using it to castigate members of a minority that are criticizing him, especially when he’s using her corpse as a shield against criticism.
Like, you get how inventing a trans mob that harassed a trans woman into suicide right after he got publicly criticized for transphobia is at bare minimum shithead behavior, right?
“Dave has a close trans friend though”
“he was lying”
“yeah but it’s ok when Dave lies”
you’re a fucking clown 🤡
So, random Chapelle Fact: For the past couple of years Dave Chapelle has had a 24/7 police presence on his property. I assume he’s hired them off-duty, but they sit in a county sheriff’s car near his front gate. I assume someone made a credible threat to him for some reason, but don’t know full details.
Timing-wise, the police presence started close to the whole “Dave opposed affordable housing in his neighborhood” story - which was repeated enough times to make it into the popular consciousness, but also pretty much untrue.
“Dave opposed affordable housing in his neighborhood” story - which was repeated enough times to make it into the popular consciousness, but also pretty much untrue.
Sure, as long as you ignore the fact that he did it on video… Twice. But yeah, let’s ignore reality and go with the PR spin from his publicist.
Wow, what an entitled asshole. Holy shit.
Yeah well one time he made fun of people I find icky and they meekly said “don’t make fun of us please” so actually Dave is the best comedian to ever have existed and has never done anything wrong. You ever considered that?
(/s duh but just in case lol)
For the past couple of years Dave Chapelle has had a 24/7 police presence on his property.
This would have made for a classic skit on Chapelle’s Show. Black man gets so rich and out of touch that he pays police to follow him around.
How much police protection do trans people get after he’s done lining his pockets with the money he makes by inciting hatred against them, I wonder?
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I’m reasonably local to the area and watched that fiasco play out over the course of several years. I’d wager I have a few more facts than you do.
I’m not a fan of Chappelle’s work in the last 10-12 years, so just throwing that out there.
The housing might appear to have been affordable to anyone not familiar with the region, but it was a basic bitch suburban sprawl neighborhood that would have been sold at market prices. Oh, and those market prices are already 1.5 to 2 times the local average because it was located in Yellow Springs. As a concession to local sensibilities, the developer offered to donate 1-acre of out of that 30-acre corn field to a local charity connected to one of the town’s councilors. That one acre would have been a mix of park land and affordable housing.
There were a mix of proposals at different times, but many of the “affordable” solutions were clearly untenable. The example I gave was the final form. All were shitty.
I also remember that this corn field was offered for sale at around 1.5 million shortly after Chapelle purchased his adjoining property, but years before serious talk of development. It was a grift/extortion from the moment he moved there.
For context, Chappelle’s house on 5 acres cost $750,000. That same house would probably have been half of that if it were anywhere else in the region. Affordable housing in that town is the topic of intense discussion, but nothing has looked even remotely as dodgey as that particular proposal.
I’m reasonably local to the area and watched that fiasco play out over the course of several years. I’d wager I have a few more facts than you do.
And yet here you are, spinning a six paragraph yarn and not providing a single citation to support of your claims and ignoring anyone that did provide sources countering your nonsense. So, I’d wager that you do not have any facts whatsoever.
Damn, that’s a lot of words to write to derail a thread in order to paint him as a victim instead of focusing on the hate he spreads to make millions of dollars.
I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and take your claims at face value. Now I have a question for you: how does that change the fact that this person used their scads of cash to overrule a (mostly) democratic process?
If his complaints had been the same as yours, and he had said “this housing isn’t affordable and it should be,” I think a lot of people would have agreed with him. But his objections were not the same as yours, he just didn’t want to share space with anyone but he wasn’t willing to just buy the land himself.
I’d wager I have more facts than you do
Doubtful since you claimed he didn’t say something that you could’ve found with a 3s search on Google. Sources wouldn’t hurt either.
That sadly sounds feasible to me… It wouldn’t have a few years ago, but here we are.
Chappelle seems like he’s developed an ego and has starting speaking on topics he doesn’t understand, but you can be unreliable or even incompetent and also right on a topic
The new special is hilarious but no one will watch it because of the last one. He addresses it in the first 5 minutes.
Lampshading bigotry by saying “haha i love punching down” doesn’t actually make it not bigotry…
Yeah the funniest part of his new special was where he said he would identify as a woman to get into women’s prison and make all the women suck his lady dick.
Hilarious.
/s
He’s a comedian. He has the right and the freedom to say whatever he wants and people have the right to laugh. Similarly, people have the right to not laugh, and the right to criticize and argue with him. We have the right to point out that a lot of people who are laughing with him aren’t doing so ironically. They’re laughing because they wholeheartedly agree and find trans people disgusting and worthy of ridicule.
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Chappelle is past his peak. He’s still funny but it’s been a steady decline since his return imo.
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