• DessertStorms@kbin.social
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    Looks like a couple of white supremacists from here would feel more at home there though (hey lurkers - from kbin we can see you upvoting the racist blowing their dog whistle, you can’t hide)…

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        In a vacuum, saying “it’s okay to be white” is fine.

        Statements are never made in a vacuum, they’re made within society. They’re thus accompanied by context and realities, a ton of little nuances which all affect meaning.

        In society, posting (or agreeing with someone posting) “it’s okay to be white” repeated multiple times is racist.

        As per your last paragraph, who says we can only deal with one source of racism at a time? How does calling out racist dogwhistles negatively impact Jewish people or residents of Gaza?

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          But living life with the presupposition that everyone has full context is ridiculous. Someone who throws up the “OK” hand sign being confronted as a racist is as absurd as saying someone who agrees with those statements is as well. Not everyone has the same wealth of knowledge and to assume people are doing it as a dog whistle or out of malice is as harmful to the people fighting Nazis because to the layman they look like over sensitive kids hunting for problems where none exist.

          ‘Quiet racism’ is ambiguous, cascading grays that need a wealth of context to address properly. Why focus energy into needles in a haystack when there is a needle factory right next door? We have ‘Loud racism’ right there. We should prioritize it.

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                It’s social media. People really like to hit the “fuck you” button and not discuss anything.

                You have to put yourself in their position though. If they commented anything and didn’t just casually dismiss, that would mean they’d have to think. Thinking is hard. Don’t do that to them.

                Edit: They also really hate having the above pointed out, but never argue with it.

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        I’m calling people racists for being racists.

        The fact that you care more about being called a racist than the actual racism being discussed says it all.

        Trying to shift the discussion to people you probably don’t give two shits about beyond using them as a debate tool does too.

        At the end of the day, if being called a racist bothers you that much, just stop being one.

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          The problem is you’re so concerned with racism you’re willing to go the complete opposite direction. The type of person to say “black people can’t be racist to white people!” while saying the most racist shit possible. The type to be so overly concerned with the outcome you’ve boxed in your definitions so you can feel like a hero to the oppressed when in reality you’re just changing which class of people get oppressed. The Jews feel like they can’t possibly be as bad as the Nazis because they were victims as they now slaughter children taking shelter in hospitals.

          I used them as a ‘debate tool’ to illustrate how an oppressed class can become the oppressors and you still let it soar over your head.

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              Yeah I’m trying to get you to self reflect but you’re right, it’s a ridiculous notion. Hey there’s still a Target you can go burn down for attention, better get on it.

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              Did you want to expand on that or just keep me guessing?

              Oh good, you expanded on it.

              Ahhh the “white people aren’t a race” okay, black people aren’t a race then. Doesn’t make a whole lot of fucking sense does it? Breaking down definitions so you can build them back up to suit you is exactly what the ‘anti-racists’ do and it’s so god damn extra. Racism has absolutely nothing to do with power, oppression, none of that. I know, shocking. Racism is treating any race as inferior (regardless of their perceived power!) and you seem very strongly aligned with the dipshits who think you can shit on white people for being white and it not be racism because of some bullshit power dynamic you tack onto the end of the definition.

              To be clear, white people were the first slaves. To be clear, Egypt even did it long after. The racism against black people is only the most recent. Not even the longest or the most brutal and your insistence to make it the biggest fucking deal to everyone around you is exhausting and plays counter to your entire side. You create the people you rally against because you go from “freeing the oppressed” to becoming the oppressors. You’ve gone from sticking up for people who couldn’t do it themselves to burning down buildings and blaming white people for not listening. You’re delusional and have become the thing you claim to be fighting against.

              Fuck off and have the slightest bit of self reflection.

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          There’s one problem, some people conflate humanitarian sentiment for Palestinians as antisemitism. Is that part of what you’re calling racist? I haven’t seen racism on lemmy.world at least, so I am confused. Edit: nvm, I recall some racism now in a political thread.

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        Not one educated person sees your plausible deniability and says “they got me. I can’t touch them!”

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          You’re right, because it’s shoot first and if we feel like it we can ask questions! They looked like a nazi after all, that’s their fault.

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    In all fairness, it’s a true statement. Just probably abused by people with certain agendas.

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      “it’s okay to be white” was crafted by 4chan as a “triggering the libs” phrase. The entire point is to be fully racist and rally under the phrase so that the people calling you racist for genuine reasons appear to be saying that it is not in fact ok to be white. Anyone saying this phrase is a white supremacist trying to trip you into “agreeing” with them that a white genocide exists and is happening, and to convince bystanders (youtube teens at the beginning of the alt-right pipeline) that the left is against white people, ergo if you’re white you should become a Nazi.

      I know this because it happened to me. “It’s ok to be white” is prime ben shapiro owns feminists with facts and logic video material.

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      The issue isn’t the statement itself. It’s the implication that white people are being victimized that folks are taking umbrage with.

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      Its a malicious statement. It makes the reader assume that there are people that dont think being white is okay. Statements like its okay to be black or lgbtq or anything else it works because there is a lot of discrimination against them.

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    Appears to be an african american lady telling everyone they’re fine to be what they are.

    Both were on the same day

    Frankly I can find better reasons to mute that account, it’s a constant stream of lists, memes, etc… but racism doesn’t appear to be one of them.

    edit: just like to congratulate OP on rage baiting lemmy by failing to investigate the account for context. It matters.

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      https://lemmy.world/comment/6321823

      That a black lady didn’t hear the dogwhistles doesn’t mean it wasn’t there.

      Or even if she did, and had just fallen for the propaganda.

      If, as a random example, a famous black celebrity were to wear a shirt saying “White Lives Matter” would you have the same reaction?

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        Feel free to rage on. Meanwhile, none of you actually looked to see what was going on there.

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          Good on you for investigating the surface level of the situation, bro, sadly, it turns out that that things can be a bit more complicated than that.

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        Do you have any sort of dns filtering going on?

        IG shows Threads posts in that preview panel based on what the algorithm tells the user engages with. I get shown comedians and motorsport stuff. If people interact with Nasis content (incl. reposting Nazi stuff commenting how bad it is), all the algorithm sees is “Oh, engagement”. The more engagement they get, the more their posts surface. Report and block.

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    My threads ads are either corporate posts or some random lady posting how a black Santa statue at her mall is the most offended she’s ever been in her life.

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    The comments here are proving toxic af and I am out drinking so I can’t really deal with them rn.