• xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org
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    11 months ago

    What? The question was literally “Should instances defederate with other instances anymore if we can filter instances out on our end?”.

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      11 months ago

      Defederating = instance block

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        11 months ago

        Defederation is done by the instance administrator and affects all users. Instance blocking is done by the user and affects only them.

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          11 months ago

          Instance blocks have been admin/instance level before user level instance blocks were a thing. User level instance blocks are more accurately user level filters. Only admin level instance blocks are true blocks.

          Admin level blocks are what I’m referring to in this conversation and that most people assume when they see the term “instance block”

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            11 months ago

            But the OP specifically talked about how the new ability to block instances can replace defederation, so it’s clear what they had in mind.

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              11 months ago

              You seem to be more interested in the semantics than the point I was making

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                11 months ago

                Your original point was that a fediverse without instance blocks would be bad, which is irrelevant to the post because the OP is not advocating for a fediverse without instance blocks:

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                  11 months ago

                  I used instance block as a synonym for defederating. Now you know what I meant, can we get on with the discussion instead of arguing about things I didn’t mean

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                    11 months ago

                    Alright. To quote your original comment:

                    Yes, and thus you have one giant mega community in which every bigot can access anyone and everyone else.

                    How would removing defederation result in a situation where “every bigot can access anyone and everyone else” if user-level instance blocking was still a thing?