• WaxedWookie@lemmy.world
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    They have no value to capitalism other than raw, unskilled, undifferentiated labour and consumption. They are nothing but the grease that gets mashed into the gears of the machine.

    I think humans are worth more than that, and OP’s framing.

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      Please read the post. It says no job, no education. Person likely has mental illnesses, this is not about economics. The situation is political, sure, but this is not the best place to unionise.

      They are nothing but the grease that gets mashed into the gears of the machine.

      Ok, poet.

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        Do you image that a comfortable existence for those that you assume are mentally ill isn’t gated behind economic decisions?

        Who is talking about unions?

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      Nice strawman argument but this guy is a loses loser. All the basement dwellers look down on him and say oh look at him he’s pathetic.

      It’s not capitalism’s fault that this guy can’t get his life in order.

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        They can’t deliver value in this system, so they have no worth, and should suffer and starve to death?

        Access to socialised education and housing seems like it would give them the opportunity to be of more value to society, no?

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        It literally doesn’t even matter; he’s looking for sympathy and support which he has the right to seek out regardless of who is responsible.

        So you can choose to quibble over who should bear the blame for his problems or you can console him like you’re supposed to be doing.

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        The full quote is

        You must be either the servant or the master, the hammer or the anvil.

        Surely there was no reason to hide the argument that servants and masters are a necessity in advancement of the point you’re outsourcing to someone that died over 300 years ago in defence today’s economic structure?

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            Noone was citing those figures, but Marx saw the industrial revolution, at least. We take what’s relevant, and dismiss what isn’t - implying Voltaire was smart, so we should uncritically agree with everything he wrote is unhinged.

            Would you rather defend the necessity of the master/servant model, or concede that the argument you outsourced is irrelevant pre-industrial nonsense?

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            We don’t heed the works of Karl Marx though do we? Even if you are that way politically inclined it’s called Postmarxist now. Because Karl Marks was frankly insane.

            It’s the same reason we don’t really pay much attention to anything that Sigmund Freud came up with. All of it has either being subsequently discredited, or was never really taken seriously to begin with.