There is definitely a time and place for firearms, though most folks in the developed world have neither reason nor knowledge to do that.
My cousins for instance - they’ve a farm in southern Sweden, and have hunting rifles. Mostly for hunting, protecting cattle and crops (wild boar can tear up a field in a jiffy). However, I don’t doubt they’d use them for protection if it came to that. The travel time for cops if they called 112 (our 911) would be in excess of an hour.
That’s the same issues with pickup trucks and SUVs. There are people who really need them. But most people who own them never, ever actually use the features that make them special.
See, that’s actually the part that worries me, and I have those friends to. I spend a decent amount of time at the range, and been around “farm guns” plenty.
But in a situation where I’m defending myself I’m probably NOT grabbing it. I haven’t put in the hours, and every statistic says it’s a drunk neighbor or some stupid kid. You absolutely should not grab a firearm for defense unless you’ve put in the mental work around NOT pulling the trigger, and just being comfortable with one doesn’t cut it.
You don’t have to look far for stories where someone was lost and pulled into the wrong driveway or the like and got blown away.
Vulnerable people should be able to defend themselves. GSRM have a high rate of being assaulted and weapons can be a strong deterrent to that, although it probably would be a better idea to carry pepper spray and other nonlethal weapons provided you know how to use them.
It’s case by case for each person, and it really depends where you live. The vast majority of people do not need to carry a weapon to defend themselves. But for those that do have that need, be it crime, environment or something else, it’s kind of like a seat belt, something you hope to never have to use, but could save your life or the life of someone you care about.
Not everyone lives in a developed country, some of us live in third world countries. I have a firearm and I wish to never have to use it for self defence, I will be extremely happy with that outcome.
One big thing that i learned while training for my CCW was even if you are in the right and shoot someone, your life is about to be hell. The average self defense shooting will run around 500K or something like that. It’s just a life ruining event no matter what.
Group shooting with rednecks will get you well on your way on the basics. It’s like having a shitload of uncles all excited to have you sharing a hobby. You’ll get to fire a lot of different firearms, too.
You’re insane. I’ve gone shooting with them and they’re spectacular about safety. Once they know you’re a noob they’re all there to tell you how to shoot.
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There is definitely a time and place for firearms, though most folks in the developed world have neither reason nor knowledge to do that.
My cousins for instance - they’ve a farm in southern Sweden, and have hunting rifles. Mostly for hunting, protecting cattle and crops (wild boar can tear up a field in a jiffy). However, I don’t doubt they’d use them for protection if it came to that. The travel time for cops if they called 112 (our 911) would be in excess of an hour.
That’s the same issues with pickup trucks and SUVs. There are people who really need them. But most people who own them never, ever actually use the features that make them special.
See, that’s actually the part that worries me, and I have those friends to. I spend a decent amount of time at the range, and been around “farm guns” plenty.
But in a situation where I’m defending myself I’m probably NOT grabbing it. I haven’t put in the hours, and every statistic says it’s a drunk neighbor or some stupid kid. You absolutely should not grab a firearm for defense unless you’ve put in the mental work around NOT pulling the trigger, and just being comfortable with one doesn’t cut it.
You don’t have to look far for stories where someone was lost and pulled into the wrong driveway or the like and got blown away.
Vulnerable people should be able to defend themselves. GSRM have a high rate of being assaulted and weapons can be a strong deterrent to that, although it probably would be a better idea to carry pepper spray and other nonlethal weapons provided you know how to use them.
It’s case by case for each person, and it really depends where you live. The vast majority of people do not need to carry a weapon to defend themselves. But for those that do have that need, be it crime, environment or something else, it’s kind of like a seat belt, something you hope to never have to use, but could save your life or the life of someone you care about.
Not everyone lives in a developed country, some of us live in third world countries. I have a firearm and I wish to never have to use it for self defence, I will be extremely happy with that outcome.
Thanks for that insight…do you have a pocket Leo you wish to share with the rest of us?
Cops aren’t here for you my dude.
No shit… that’s why I carry. That was my whole point of my comment.
Are you having a stroke lad?
Leo = law enforcement officer…aka a cop, the popo, the fuzzy, the rozzers, pigs, plods, etc…
One big thing that i learned while training for my CCW was even if you are in the right and shoot someone, your life is about to be hell. The average self defense shooting will run around 500K or something like that. It’s just a life ruining event no matter what.
Don’t get USCCA, lot’s of bad shit from those guys not paying out.
Yeah I’ve heard that before. I went with CCW Safe since there’s records of them paying out.
Yep, heard the same thing.
Group shooting with rednecks will get you well on your way on the basics. It’s like having a shitload of uncles all excited to have you sharing a hobby. You’ll get to fire a lot of different firearms, too.
Very few rednecks actually practice gun safety. I’ll pass.
You’re insane. I’ve gone shooting with them and they’re spectacular about safety. Once they know you’re a noob they’re all there to tell you how to shoot.