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    Unless I’m mistaken, the most popular fiction in which VR is wildly popular is… Ready Player One, Snow Crash, and Neuromancer. And in all of them, VR is only popular because people are trying to escape the hellscape that unrestrained capitalism has turned the planet into.

    I dunno. Give it a few more years, maybe.

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      I felt major Snow Crash vibes the first time I tried VRChat. Some of the servers are totally The Black Sun, without the hacker-programmed bouncers. But it also felt like a lot of the people were there escaping a reality they couldn’t deal with.

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        How about going full Dune, and destroying all computers and AI’s to replace them with human calculators and autopilots?

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      It was a cash hole the lizard man could pour money into so that the story became how bad they fucked up the metaverse, and not the burgeoning story about how they created an algorithm that destroys democracy for a few extra dollars per active user.

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      I can tell you what the Metaverse is not. A corporate social space. That said there is interest in what it could be out side of the corporate dystopia.

      I have been imagineering a VR Theme Park with highly detailed dark rides that is online and thus a Metaverse by definition and it ranks in the top VR apps and miles above all the social focus Metaverses, especially the corporate ones. I am sure there will be other Metaverses that catch on too, it is just hard to see when the corporations shit all over the term by presenting such an awful, boring and downright creepy take on it.

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    And that report was like a year ago, imagine how it’s looking now lol.

    Edit: Might be worth pointing out this is not Facebook’s Metaverse, but rather Decentraland, a web 3.0 crypto metaverse that is even shittier than Zuck’s version.

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    Half legit half rhetorical question. If I wanted to see what the metaverse is like, how would I even do that? It has always felt like something in closed beta, or like an obscure Sony service that you need a PS5 and multiple premium memberships to access. I don’t know if it’s a program you install, a website you go to, or what. The fediverse might have accessibility issues but it’s not nearly as bad as whatever the metaverse is. I actually didn’t expect to still be saying “whatever the metaverse is” at this point but it never got any clearer.

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      It’s an abstract concept that nobody is willing to pin down to specific requirements, only general principles. If you actually want a peak at what people are hyping just try vrchat. Prepare for massive culture whiplash, weird avatars, trolls, and things that are off putting to some like sexualized avatars and furries. And of course it’s not for everyone and every application, that’s corporate hype stupidity. Why do I still think there’s something really important there? Cause there’s something really special about all the small details. People who never would’ve met talking across thousands of miles “face to face.” It’s like our monkey brains process actual personal connection and bypass most the adversarial bullshit we’ve been cultivating in text social media.

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        I’ve seen vrchat and it looks awesome. I didn’t care about it until I found out anybody can make avatars and levels. It’s no IMVU. It’s also pretty straightforward to type vrchat in a search engine and find somewhere to download the client. I found the article for this post and they’re talking about a thing called decentraland. The metaverse is apparently any online game that uses a crypto wallet as the account, but decentraland seems like the only game available. What’s the thing where nobody has legs then? That’s what I thought the metaverse was.

        https://futurism.com/the-byte/metaverse-decentraland-report-active-users

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          OP is confusing Facebook’s Metaverse with Decentraland, the later is a sort of ultra crude foundational game engine with some web 3.0 integration, you can buy land (obviously) and try to build experiences within your parcel.

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      The quote I like the most on this subject is: “The metaverse isn’t a place; it’s a time in history when our digital identity and goods have as much or more importance than our real life versions.” I don’t think we’re there yet, but it also makes little (rational) sense that people spend money for virtual items in video games.

      I think the closest playable analogues are actually Fortnite and Roblox. Interconnected worlds with external avatars that cross them. You play experiences vs. games. There’s brand integration so Goku can fight John Wick. It’s pretty close?

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      The fediverse might have accessibility issues but it’s not nearly as bad as whatever the fediverse is

      Didn’t you mean to say metaverse the second time you mentioned fediverse?

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      If I wanted to see what the metaverse is like, how would I even do that?

      But a Quest and install Gorilla Tag.

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          A Quest 1 at this point is about 100 dollars used. A Quest 2 is about 250, and a Quest 3 is about 500. Pick your level of bang for buck, then most of the things that could be described as metaverses are free to play/use.

          A real metaverse would essentially just be “the internet” but for VR. We don’t have that. But the most popular metaverse-like stuff we have is akin to second-life type stuff. User created spaces all connected together by a hub and spoke system. VRchat is the most populous, rec room is also pretty big, Altspace might still be good, I haven’t checked in a while. Probably lots of other options. Meta of course wants their “Horizons” to be the metaverse, but in actuality it’s the crappiest free option.

          Speaking of Second life, they did make a VR port of it, but last I tried it sucked and was hard to get working. Don’t know if they have done any more work on it or if they gave up.

          I think it’s mostly just still too early. We are only just now getting headsets that are worth it for normal people and not just us Autistic people. So VR is only just starting it’s trek towards mainstream. I know 20 million headsets have been sold, but retention is not high yet. It should be starting with the Quest 3 and other headsets of this generation, since normal people actually like it now.

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    That’s Decentraland. It does not even support VR.

    You’re conflating Meta and some cryptobro bullshit when talking about legs.

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      No, they are talking about Meta Avatars and Meta Horizon Worlds, the multiplayer platform for gaming and socializing that Meta itself created and in which the avatars originally didn’t feature legs.

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        Yeah, but the article is about Decentraland, it literally says it’s name down in the corner. OP got the two mixed up.

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          We should still keep in mind that Meta doesn’t own the word metaverse, though. There’s been several things already on the market that could be described as a metaverse, years before they ever thought about rebranding from Facebook.

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    Steam player counter indicates there are currently 25347 players live playing VRChat on Steam. VRChat had an all-time peak of 46814 concurrent players on 1 January 2023.

    Talk about getting ratioed.

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    That number is absolutely incredible! I can’t believe it had as many as 30 people using it!

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    funniest thing ive read today.

    lets build something no one needs, or asked for, and is stupidly expensive… hmmmmmmm

    this will be discussed in classrooms for decades

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      You forgot bland and brand-safe, designed for advertising and micro transactions.

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    Might have been more popular, if the Metaverse only showed legs walking around for the humour value.