Found this post super informative as it relates to Mastodon, and thought Lemmy might also benefit from this perspective. I’m not sure I share his optimism, but his points seem sound to dampen some of the alarm bells over Meta joining the Fediverse.

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      Lol are you serious? What, did you want a little bubble on the internet where corporations don’t exist? What does “open source” mean to you, open to only the entities you allow in? Like the article says, join an instance that defederates every corporate entity or make your own, but don’t blame developers of open source software for keeping it open.

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          Then join an instance that’s defederated with them, or create your own. It’s literally that simple. Don’t shit on open source devs for keeping their software open source.

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              Uh, we need participation from everyone in order for the fediverse to have legitimacy. We unfortunately need those cringe users if we want large scale adoption. Without it everything stays small scale, developers aren’t attracted to the concept and people leave for functioning alternatives.

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              Oh god, “shilling”. Yep, there’s that Reddit paranoia. Everyone who disagrees with me a robot!

              There are two topics here, Meta and beans. Of course I’m talking about one of them lmao

              And read the original comment I replied to saying Mastadon devs are “in bed with vipers”. That’s what I would consider “shitting on”.

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                  My comments downplay the “threat” because I don’t believe it’s a threat, and if a single corporation joining the fediverse somehow actually destroys it then it wasn’t going to be around long anyways.

                  If you read all my comments you should know that. I’m not a fucking shill because I disagree with you ffs.

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          It’s not embracing Meta. All it says is, once it is federated, they may be interoperable. That’s it. You could view stuff on Threads and Threads users could view stuff elsewhere (unless your instance defederates from Threads).

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          Embrace, extend, extinguish is exactly what first came to my mind when I heard about threads planning to federate. I think it is a huge risk.

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          Everyone has seen it, it isn’t food for thought. It’s a Microsoft playbook from the 90s/early 00s that wasn’t even targeting open source software and wasn’t even successful as a means of targeting competitive freeware.

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            Dude quit being a dick. You work for Facebook or something? This is a real conversation. This isn’t reddit, this isn’t facebook, this isn’t twitter. We don’t just dunk on people here.

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              How on earth is that “dunking”? Disagreeing with you is being a dick now? Jesus lol

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        “Open source” means anyone can use or reuse the source code, it doesn’t require you to show content from entities you don’t trust.

        The great thing about the fediverse is that we are all free to create or join instances that have federation policies we prefer.

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          Exactly. Mastadon devs aren’t “in bed with vipers” because they aren’t somehow closing their open source software to an entity.

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            None of this has anything to do with Mastodon’s source code though, I don’t know why you keep bringing up open source

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              Read the first comment in this thread about Mastadon’s devs being “in bed with vipers”

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                I assumed that was about mastodon.social not defederating and Eugene Rochko saying not to worry about Threads

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                  Eugene Rochko even says to join a server that defederates Meta if you want in the article.

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      Tell me you’ve not read the article without telling me you’ve not read the article.

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      If threads becomes larger than the entire fediverse, then it’s stupid to not be compatible with them to use their content for the mastodon users. You can also begin to pillage users every time the platform does something stupid with theoretically minimal issues of losing followers.